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Top Democrat calls for Hegseth and Waltz to resign and shreds Gabbard over Signal war talk leak
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 25 Mar 2025
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I find their attitude about many things disgusting, but I don't care about them enough to hate them. I have better things to hate in my life, like Zionists. And speaking of Zionists:
I'll ask: When would Zionists stop being disgusting? See what I mean? Okay back from the top:
They're saying things though; if they were silent I'd give them a pass (to an extent; all Americans who go that route share a moral responsibility for not acting). They're vocally criticizing the regime, and have torn into Trump over the opsec stuff by your own admission. Yet there's not a word about the mass murder.
You tried to argue that, and I laid out a counterargument that you then proceeded to dismiss and claim I just hate liberals too much. Look if you want to have a real conversation here you'll have to engage with my arguments just as I engage with yours.
When they stop caring about the interests of capital and start caring about human life. More specifically wealth redistribution, strong regulation on capital, healthcare for all, strong climate legislation, not murdering people abroad directly or through Israel, etc are bare minimum criteria that liberals of all shapes and stripes fail miserably, because if they adopt these things they'll stop being liberals and become some variant of democratic socialist. Liberals are fundamentally people who ostensibly care about both democracy and capitalism, but resolve tensions inherent between the two by falling on the side of capitalism. This is why AOC and Bernie for example are not liberals.
Liberals are worth listening to when they stan for democracy (so civil and political rights, what little social welfare and climate legislation they do support, etc), and not worth listening to when they stan for capitalism against democracy (so tax cuts and handouts for billionaires, unnecessary privatization, etc).