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The main thing that keeps me away from Stellaris (and all Paradox games) is the stupid amount of DLC content.
When a game makes me feel like I have to spend some stupid amount to buy all 30 different dlcs just to get the whole game, then I just avoid the game entirely. If I see a steam page and the dlc list is the longest section on the page then I just close it down.
With Paradox, you get a complete and very complex game right from the start.
And then they shovel mountains of DLC on top for those who haven't played anything else in the past 5 years.
If you played it with all DLC as a beginner, you'd be completely overwhelmed.
Ehhh, they can be rough experiences on launch so if that's what you mean by 'right from the start' I disagree a bit. I very much wish I let Stellaris cook a year or so before I grabbed it.
Otherwise I definitely agree. The free updates they release with the DLC are usually excellent, and sometimes I still intentionally disable the DLCs because they add mechanics I'm not interested in interacting with. I own Man the Guns for HoI4, for example, and I almost never actually enable it.
You can generally get the base game for a bit of nothing(Stellaris' historical low is $4), and then grab the DLCs you think will interest you down the line when they're also on sale.
I am somewhat tired of them completely upending how Stellaris plays, though. I feel like every time I get comfortable with the game they overhaul some major system, and I'm learning how to play a new game again.
I kinda feel you dude. I used to be pretty good at stellaris, and now it feels like I would need to learn it from almost the ground up to figure out armies and diplomacy and the rest