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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What evidence of a botched penis vanity surgery is there?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s an allegation, not evidence.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Sounds like circumstantial evidence to me...

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Allegations from first hand sources are evidence, that's an eye witness they have children together people have been convicted of murder on eye witness alone.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My limited understanding of the law is that allegations can trigger investigations in the hopes to find evidence, but are not evidences themselves. I could be wrong though.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Did I say I'm conducting an investigation let alone a criminal one? No. Lol into civil law and we're not even saying it's that it's just closer to that then criminal law.

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a difference between Grimes saying something and Azealia Banks claiming that Grimes said something. I'd be very skeptical of any rumor started by Azealia Banks.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's not, grimes has had ample opportunity to rebuke the idea and chose not to so it stands as circumstantial evidence.

I am skeptical of anyone giving musk the benefit of the doubt at this point, guess we're just different people huh?

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nobody wants to respond to Azealia Banks, who is known for harassing other artists on social media, especially ones who don't have the foresight to avoid interacting with her. Grimes didn't comment the last name Banks dragged her into a feud related to Elon Musk, and later released a song about "trying to destroy Azealia Banks when she tried to destroy my life".

Why would Grimes go out of her way to defend her ex against rumors about his penis when he just tried to block her from seeing their children? Grimes is not responsible for refuting rumors about Musk and she has every reason to ignore them, even more so when Azealia Banks is involved.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a wall of text that says you can't disprove it you just distrust a random singer less than the Nazi in the white house. Genius position, hope it works out for you.

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't trust known liars like Elon Musk or Azealia Banks, so don't put words in my mouth. You taking gossip from a "random singer" seriously because Grimes ignored it is a "genius position", hope it works out for you.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't take advice. I said I wouldn't doubt it. there's evidence to suggest it's true. You seem to be the one outright ignoring someone because you don't trust them, so yeah genius position.

Ps, you're taking gossip too you dirty gossip girl, in fact you linked to it as though it were somehow evidence.

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, I distrust claims from people who are untrustworthy, including Elon Musk and Azealia Banks. You should too.

Azealia Banks saying something on Twitter is not "evidence".

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's literally evidence, saying "Nuh uh" however firmly will not change that fact.

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unsubstantiated gossip from a habitual liar is not evidence. Saying "yes it is" however firmly will not change that fact.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is evidence detective, it's not "good" evidence in your mind which is called an opinion since you don't seem to understand that either.

Evidence (2)

one who bears witness

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evidence

The result is that third parties can be subpoenaed and then served virtually anywhere in the United States; they can be made to show up for depositions and produce documents, and they can be called to give evidence at trial. Third-party testimony is a core element of civil litigation.

https://www.troutman.com/insights/when-where-and-whether-the-confusing-law-of-third-party-evidence.html

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Since you're quoting legal definitions, you should learn that rumors are hearsay, and hearsay is inadmissible as evidence.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It absolutely is there are hearsay rules both federally and at the state level that determine what weight to give hearsay. Criminal law is different, but even then hearsay can be admissable, it just isn't by default.

Federal rules of evidence basically 801 to 807, 803, 805 and 807 (?) are specific exemptions. Notably in civil court they'd object to hearsay and the resolution is to call the person who is claimed to have said or done whatever as a witness and get their testimony making it no longer hearsay.

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Obviously, "I heard he had a penis implant" does not qualify for these exemptions.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, again what court are we in?

Regardless, you'd call grimes as a witness and in civil court you do not have a fifth amendment right, they have to answer truthfully and make it no longer hearsay.

If you're going to be tedious throw a little logic in there to save us both the time.

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The court that you conjured up to justify your use of a rumor that would inadmissable as evidence. Grimes isn't testifying since she made no comment. In fact, there's nothing to indicate that she is even aware of the rumor.

Your tedious arguments all stem from your failure to recognize that just because someone said something on social media doesn't mean it's credible, even if the people the rumor is about didn't bother to acknowledge it.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I specifically and in multiple specifically said we're not taking about court. Yes she's not aware aside from it being an immensely well known rumor especially right now but sure, it's not like she's famous for her social media acumen.... Oh wait.

That doesn't make it not evidence, yet again that wouldn't make it good evidence in your opinion. Two separate things though the awkward aggression is a neat addition to this particular exchange.