cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23396300
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nickyflowers posts:it would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. the advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though and their definitions of family and friendly are absolutely fucked. but since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. tiktokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to
nickyflowers replies:
oh im sorry you're a trans adult? super ban. you are super banned for life. you have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. how could you do this to Google Ads?
We agree here, but this will not necessarily stop the rot. Companies will just approach these communities and offer the leaders massive buyouts, and then flood it with ads (see Twitch).
Communities themselves need mechanisms to punish or vandalize advertisements.
I would like to avoid going on a rant, so I'll just say this - capitalism does not work. The phenomena you are describing (... now people have too low standards) is called "tyranny of the majority" and capitalism does not have an answer for this. Hence why we really need to figure something out.
As a side note, I do not think communism nor socialism are the answer either! Despite what many are led to believe, we live in primitive times and have not figured out a sustainable economic model.
Well said.
The unfortunate reality is that part of economic model is combating bad actors. A society that where the people truly believe in this can be built in a lifetime, and it will torn down by the worst among us in a decade. That is simply not a good investment.
Even in Europe, there are significant strides in tearing down what makes the people there happy and succeed (see the AfD in Germany).
This is an incentives problem through-and-through. These types of people should not, and cannot, exist in a functioning society - yet they do. The problem is that we have not figured out a good incentive-model to stop these people from gaining a foothold, so we must individually punish them for attempting to destroy the community.
This is the same exact problem with advertisers. And in the same way, we have not figured out a good way to stop them.
It is more to do with being locked into a walled garden. If your community and family use Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc. then you either have to stay, or get left out.
In the new US Constitution we should include Data Portability as a right.