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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

what you are probably referring to is not capitalism, they would never destroy the source of their own power. its the new deal-era soviet-inspired social security net. capitalism is what remains after they are done.

and you only got that because people were getting angry at the capitalists and were organized enough to have actual leverage. they are destroying the island of socialist policies you had.

[–] Retropunk64@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Its not a part of raw capitalism, but capitalism doesn't exist in a vacuum, and it absolutey is a part of the capitalist system that America has built.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

theres no such thing as "raw capitalism". the political economic system is either capitalist or not.

[–] Retropunk64@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Capitalism can exist with or without safeguards to protect the least powerful among us from the most powerful among us. American capitalism has safefguards. The most powerful among us are knocking down said safeguards to take advantage of the least powerful among us. They are killing American capitalism to replace it with their more dangerous version of capitalism. I.e. american capitalism isn't dying, its being murdered.

I'm just repeating myself now. I'm moving on from this. You have a nice day.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

American capitalism has safefguards.

clearly not. if a fascist can just come and take them off, they werent safeguards in the first place.

[–] Retropunk64@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not how that works tho. Safeguards can fail, they're not foolproof. That's like saying this railing on a balcony isn't a safeguard to protect people from falling because that guy just came at it and knocked it down with a sledgehammer.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

if it was Obama (still not a leftist but treated as such), would they have let him get away with rape like trump did? would he get away with an attempted coup? or with all the lies trump says constantly without effective scrutiny from institutions?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

I’m just repeating myself now. I’m moving on from this. You have a nice day.

Have you ever considered actually engaging with people?