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[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Not understanding" doesnt mean "dont respect them" though.

I don't get it either, but it costs me absolutely nothing to use a neopronoun or anything else.

If you dont understand, you could either try to understand, or just use someone's neopronouns and move on. Or not reply at all.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That wasn't my question though. Why are they getting lumped together?

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was more of "being a dick for no reason" than a question, and I'm not an expert.

That said, I'd say because their physical body doesn't match how they feel on the inside. Which is definitely something trans folks experience.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago

Okay, I can see the overlap with that last part. Thank you for the perspective.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They are getting lumped together because that's the context of what OP did. OP has received mod action twice, both times for making directed commentary on the validity of another person's gender (aka disrespecting).

But yeah, I think curbstickle misread your intent--you are both in the right here there's just some miscommunication, Hopefully this clarifies. :)

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Aren't species and gender two wildly different things? Or am I misunderstanding the larger context?

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“Not understanding” doesnt mean “dont respect them” though.

I don’t get it either, but it costs me absolutely nothing to use a neopronoun or anything else.

If you dont understand, you could either try to understand, or just use someone’s neopronouns and move on. Or not reply at all.

Okay, but as I noted, I used Drag's pronouns. I don't remember ever using the wrong pronouns for Drag, though I'm sure a 'they' or the like slipped in in some deeply buried comment.

The issue becomes whether gender has any limits for what it means. I objected to both the fantastic and the species. For that reason, on another instance, in a discussion that did not involve Drag or Blahaj admins, I was banned from a bunch of comms that I hadn't even commented in in months.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Okay, but as I noted, I used Drag's pronouns.

I wasn't talking about you, I was referring to calling neopronouns "cosplaying". Its intentionally disrespectful.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago

Did you ban yourself? lol

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say that, but I do think it would be good for you to reconsider your wording, especially considering you admit to not understanding, and then acknowledged later the relation to trans feelings and how the two can be related.

But I'm not a "ban them" kind of guy. I'm more of a "remove their comment and explain" kind of guy.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 months ago (25 children)

My comment wasn't intended to suggest that being trans is a form of gender cosplay, so I apologize if that was how it read.

However, I will stand behind my statement that identifying as a totally different species is indeed pure fantasy that makes no real world sense to me.

I do support it in the same vein that I support all creativity and fun. Furries-- fuck if I understand that, but if no one (or animal) is getting hurt, go wild and have a great time.

That being said, if I was asked by a furry to only refer to them as a dog or cat in all real world scenarios because that's the species they identify as, I simply cannot pander and think it's a pretty unreasonable and fantastical expectation.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wesker didn't mention neopronouns, though?

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, just an offhanded comment about them cosplaying.

Would you say that a trans woman was "cosplaying being a woman"?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (13 children)

No, but I'd say anyone who claimed to be a dragon was, at best, cosplaying being a dragon.

On account of dragons not being real, for one.

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