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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

People who didn't vote clearly didn't feel that strongly about it one way or the other.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lil’ bit of voter suppression may also have contributed.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but I think it's clear that Trump has a strong base that supports what he's doing. It's important to recognize that.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Yep, loooooot of absolute fucking morons in this country.

Also, they definitely cheated.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why it's called "organizing."

Back in the day, MLK put together a March on Washington with payphones and mimeograph machines.

When he started, 99% of the population thought Tarzan was a great hero.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not against actual organizing done by orgs like PSL, but the reality is that large swaths of US public openly and vehemently support Trump.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Back in the day, MLK put together a March on Washington with payphones and mimeograph machines.

When he started, 99% of the population thought Tarzan was a great hero.

Read the history. A lot of the African-American population thought that King was a dangerous radical. He had no access to national media and there were no cell phone camera if the police decided to get frisky.

No one said it would be easy.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Seems like we're talking past each other here. I never said positive change in US is not possible, or that people shouldn't be organizing. I'm pointing out the current state of the country here. 🤷

[–] griff@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

there is no mandate for any of this brutal idiotic chicanery

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Seems like plenty of people are cheering it on.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or maybe there’s no voting holiday and people are too burned out from working 3 part time jobs to make ends meet.

Perhaps if the dems offered anything of substance to the working class, people could have found a way to get to the polling booths. But they didn’t, so here we are.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or maybe voting on which member of the ruling class will oppress people isn't meaningful democracy.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed, would love to see FPTP replaced with ranked choice voting, and getting rid of the electoral college altogether. This would open the door for a party actually on the left, and if given a platform I’m sure they’d dominate the current establishment. Believe it or not only a relatively small fraction of America is full on maga fascist.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I mean that's how a lot of European systems work and clearly isn't helping much there either. The reality is that liberal democracies turn towards fascism in times of crisis. The problem is with the inequality and the fact that a handful of rich oligarchs own everything while exploiting everyone else. No meaningful democracy is possible unless means of production are owned by the workers. The rich will always get their way.