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There is definitely valid criticism to be made, but it can be a bit much at times. (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"You don’t hate women and feminism. You hate capitalism."

https://slrpnk.net/post/17820010

As if misogyny is a new thing that came along with capitalism. Women have been second-class citizens for most of recorded history. While they're still not on par with men, if anything it has improved in the modern, capitalist world.

"It is always capitalism's fault"

https://lemmy.world/post/23607277

Despite the nazis being fascists, somehow it's not their fault, it's actually capitalism that's at fault.

Lemmy search isn't very good, but I've replied to a bunch of Lemmy posts over the last while where the argument is basically that capitalism is the worst possible system. They seem to be unaware of just how brutal and awful life was under Manorialism / Feudalism. They seem to equate every modern ill with capitalism, even when it's something that was 1000x worse under say fascism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I thought that had more to do with the rise in misogyny from men looking to blame something that isn't capitalism. I would say the the issue is more complicated then capitalism, but capitalism is definitely a major factor.

Look at just the advertisements in mainstream culture. Ads designed for men appeal to masochism, but modern society, or at least the white collar work that society tells men they want, has no need for manliness. You get this glitch in people's minds and men fall into a Man-o-sphere spiral. It's actually stunning how actuate Fight Club predicted types like Trump and Tate. Only real issue with Fight Club is that Tyler Durden had to have believable charisma. His real life counter parts have the charisma is a wet paper bag.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I'm not trying to argue the point of "capitalism good or bad", I just feel you misunderstood the posts you linked.

The first one does not say that misogyny in general is begotten by capitalism, just that the current problems that today's misogynists experience and attribute to women and feminism today are actually caused by today's ruling class under capitalism.

An the second one faults capitalism for enabling nazism, it does not say "it's not the fascists fault", but that "capitalists are fascists with the mask not yet fully off".

All I'm saying it's different arguments.