this post was submitted on 18 Jan 2025
676 points (94.8% liked)

politics

31081 readers
1962 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles. Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to US politics and contain quality and original content. Social Media adjacent hosts like Substack are allowed, but ONLY if they tie back to a company/subsidiary. No personal or friend group blogs and no self-promotion. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and re-hosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing other users of being bots or paid actors.
  3. No memes, trolling, misinformation, or low-effort posts/comments (including reposts). If you see posts like this that anger you, do not engage. Report, block, and live a happier life than they do. Any slap-fight is subject to comment removals. Fights full of rule violations will result in temporary bans to cool off.
  4. No manipulating votes via bots or alt accounts; this will result in permanent bans. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in an account ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be permanently banned.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules and use critical thinking when reading, posting, and commenting. Users that repeatedly have comments or posts removed, weaponize reports, or violate the code of conduct, will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users. The reason(s) behind moderator action(s) are publicly available through the Modlog.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Well, I'm not in denial. This country is full of fucking idiots. The next Democratic presidential candidate should be a celebrity that promises to achieve world peace and full gay space communism. Apparently empty promises and celebrity are what win elections.

[–] ECB@feddit.org 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think you may have missed the point a bit. It's exactly these 'empty promises' which have been the democrats issue over the past 30 years.

They get elected on messages like 'make the economy work work everyday americans' and then once in office they prioritize the status quo and making sure that nothing major changes. This benefits the wealth and damages everyday people, many of whom voted for them in the hopes that the democrats would improve their situation.

As awful as much of their platform is, the Republicans have proven that they aren't scared to break things and make big changes. This appeals to many voters who feel let down by empty promises.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Democrats say good things for the people. Democrats win = Republicans just block everything and embarrass Democrats for it. Republican voters also go without understanding.... The main thing is against the "enemy" (i.e. against America...)

Of course the Republicans only build shit and destroy America besides blocking everything good that would benefit the American citizen (you). But it was the Democrats... who accept a democratic election and after defeat. NOT block everything from Republicans. How deluded can you be.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Name one of those empty promises and let's review how they were voted on in congress. If the Democrats voted against it then your comment has merit, if Republicans blocked it your comment has no merit

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't get to just blame the opposition for making sure nothing got done. Especially when the other party manages to succeed when they have power.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are you even talking about? I do get to blame the Congress members who vote for or against something. That is your civic duty. What do you do, check boxes for funsies?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The failure of Democrats is their own. Giving them a pass because of Republicans is lazy. There's always opposition.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

So yeah, for funsies

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Next? I'm sorry, but democracy continues to be dismantled. The train has left the station. Trump already had 4 years of training and now with direct support from Musk.... Hate fear and more hate mongering...and Trump is using it.... So are accusations of election meddling etc.... fuck why hasn't there been that accusation even from Democrats? That's it.. Its game over.

All those highly secured nuclear secrets or files in the restroom at the golf club... anyone who steals something like that... also steals/cheats in the election. But not 1 accusation... Republicans as well as Democrats don't want democracy anymore. A convicted highly criminal traitor to the country and enemy of the state becomes president without riots etc.... The Democrats who are now just pointing at the Republicans with "I told you so" but not doing a riot or anything else are just as hostile to democracy.