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Arab officials: Trump envoy swayed Netanyahu more in one meeting than Biden did all year
(www.timesofisrael.com)
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Oh yeah, duh. Because the Israeli government never broke a signed ceasefire before. I forgot. They always do what they say.
Say. Are you interested in sending me money to help build a bridge?
So first you say "wait untli the ceasefire is signed". Now when it is signed you say "wait until Israel breaks it".
According to your own standards you are only allowed to rag on Trump after Israel breaks the ceasefire.
You're combining what I said with another commenter to make some weird argument about moving goalposts or some shit. I didn't say anything of the sort. I just think it's worth pointing out that Israel has broken their ceasefire agreements like hundreds of times. If you're going to use the ceasefire as a benchmark, it's probably important to know the context around previous ceasefires and how pointless they've been.
But hey. It sounds like you just wanna pat yourself on the back. You don't need to respond to me to do that.
You are not wrong about Israel violating ceasefires. When Israel inevitably does, I will make a post about how much Trump has been humiliated if that makes you happy.
For now though, the genocide stops. And that is good. Joe Biden could have taken credit for a ceasefire for more than a year. But Biden chose to lose the election to continue the genocide. Biden ideologically wanted to destroy Gaza. Biden did to Gaza all the things you are projecting on Trump.
And now against all odds Trump stops it. So he gets credit.
I hope you're right that things do actually stop.
I guess I'm just too cynical. I don't think either Trump or Biden actually give a shit about perpetuating, stopping or even acknowledging genocide. I don't think they have any ideological alignment other aligning to whichever lobbyist paid the most this week. Selling weapons is normal business for US, and we'll continue to justify selling weapons whenever there's money to be made.
There is one factor most Democrats ignore. Unlike Biden, Trump is not ideologically aligned to Israel. Trump will sell out to the highest bidder.
Trump takes Saudi bribes. And MBS would really like to not have this going on. Corruption might just be the salvation.
Or Trump will let Israel continue after 42 days. That too is possible.
Trump moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
Just a random thing he did though and means nothing I'm sure, right?
Biden just came out and admitted he let Netanyahu carpet bomb Palestine on video.
Nice non-sequitur. I was responding to this specifically:
So telling me about Biden's alignment with Israel is really meaningless in this context, isn't it?
Biden did a full on genocide for Israel. That is infinitely worse.
Try to stay on topic, I know it's hard....
This is the topic you want to change.
Yeah, it's definitely not though. We were talking about Trump's possible allegiances to Israel, and you seem to think he doesn't have any. That's ignorant.
I have no problem discussing the genocide being perpetrated on the Palestinian people (and has been ongoing for decades, not something that started a few years ago, btw), but that's not what was being discussed, so when you change the subject to that it looks like you're avoiding something.