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11 years ago...
Today they're 200-250.
That review is for the b580 at $250, you're commenting on an article about the b570...
And while the 580 supports ray tracing... It's gonna be a huge performance hit.
It tries to gain that back with frame gen, but it will have a really low real fps which means issues when it's used.
So you can have real frames and no ray tracing, or ray tracing and fake frames. For the samish fps
Most people will choose real frames.
Yet these are new and in production, where you can only find used or refurbished 1080tis
Like, no one is saying to upgrade to a battlemage card from a 1080ti if you already have one, but you can't pretend there isn't a market for it. And while they might not be fully there yet, having a competitive entey-level market for GPUs will only bring good things for budget PCs.
Why do you need new?
E waste is a huge deal, a refurbished or even used card is soooo much better for the environment than new
And people will always keep buying the newest and fastest, and selling last gen's newest and fastest into the used market.
There's nothing wrong with buying used as long as you're paying attention. It's not like 20 years ago when card burnt out in a couple years. Even mining rigs aren't that hard on cards these days because we're past the days of them OCing to go as fast as possible. They're undervolting to save on electricity and running at steady loads when power is cheap.
We need to normalize used hardware.
Quick edit:
I should point out to be very careful right now, everytime a new gen comes out there's a bunch of scams like cards without dies and other things.
Always be careful, check reviews and understand some things are too good to be true.
My point is about the availability of used cards. Sometimes the market provides that, but they aren't going to stop making new cards just because older cards exist.