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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I knew Blahaj was never 'for' me, but I always felt comfortable here. Guess that's over. Ada and the admins have the right to cultivate the community they want to see on Blahaj, and I wish them the best of luck going forward.

I'm going to miss 196 and Femcelmemes, but... well, Blahaj isn't for me, since I don't acknowledge 'dragonfucker' as a gender.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

(Not sure if I'm supposed to say this yet but screw it):

If it's any consolation, for a good handful of weeks we've been planning on moving 196 to lemmy.world ASAP... but to tell you the truth I'm not sure how soon that will be. It's tricky, but we're working with the admins of both instances to figure it out.

Edit to clarify: We're not moving because of the "neopronouns" thing.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I sure fuckin hope not, lemmy.world admins and mods are generally even more incompetent than the others.

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 years ago

Agreed, moving 196 to .world is a terrible idea.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've had some bad run-ins with Lemmy.world mods, certainly, but the admins seem overall fine, if amateurish. They generally take into account feedback and try to provide the full rundown of any actions taken. When one of the admins crossed a line of participation/moderation/administration in the recent vegan cats debacle, they chose to clarify and have the admin admit wrongdoing.

Far from perfect, but they're tolerable.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mods are one thing, users are another. Didn't the vegans leave because users kept coming in and ignoring community guidelines, then go around the mods to disregard the community guidelines not because they care about animals but because they don't like vegans? The dog pile was pretty gross from what I remember. None of the meta discussions focused on mod behavior; all of them were anti vegan circle jerks.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I pretty distinctly remember the vegans leaving because their primary complaint was about the admin taking action.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

The thing I did was make an alt on Lemmy.vg and subscribe to all the vegan comms, hopefully LW will assign a vegan admin to help assist the vegan communities on the instance.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm open to suggestions for other instances

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well first of all there should probably be a pinned poll about whether 196s subscribers and users actually want to move. After that if people actually think its necessary to move, you can make a pinned poll about suggestions for a new instance.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

By "asap" I didn't mean any minute now. :p Rest assured we wouldn't make such a big change without at least telling you guys outside of a comment on a random post. And I agree a poll would be a good idea.

And apparently I was mistaken about some things, so I've deleted my comment. Until further notice, just disregard what I said. Any major changes to 196 will be announced by the other mods, probably through a sticky post.

Edit: Since I deleted the last post I'll clarify here, too, that we weren't making any major changes due to the neopronouns thing. It was just something I saw being discussed a good while ago and assumed it was still underweigh.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Darn, I'm really going to miss it then. lemmy.world has not been worth keeping in my feed generally.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah me too, been a lot happier without . world bickering in my feed but will be sad to lose 196

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm open to suggestions for other instances

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

That is some comfort!

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm sad that one user has caused so much trouble for so many people on here. I don't get the current situation at all, as it's small potatoes compared to the myriad of transphobes and tankies from other instances. I don't often block users, but I don't see how this issue isn't just tied to a single one who would be better off blocked.

I don't get how wider political discussions get roped into personal problems. If a person was a really nice "dragonfucker," I don't know if we'd be having this conversation. It's fine to dislike a person without seeing them as immoral or a political enemy.

I'll be sad to see you go, especially over this 😞

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t often block users, but I don’t see how this issue isn’t just tied to a single one who would be better off blocked.

That's the problem with precedents. Especially when the precedent is established with a user whose behavior is already quite... non-ideal.

I’ll be sad to see you go, especially over this 😞

Yeah, I'm not thrilled either. I enjoyed Femcelmemes very much. I hope your community continues thriving!

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The comment defending "drag" as a pronoun (and banning people over it) even uses "they" twice. Apparently admins don't have to follow the ridiculous, made up rule. They can just ban anyone who calls it ridiculous.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

drag explicitly doesnt mind people using they/them

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

It goes back and forth.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I haven't spoken about a specific user in any of this...

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

honestly the dragonfucker problem would've come up one way or another, dragonfucker is the direct cause that pulled the trigger but the shell and propellant was already in place

[–] python@programming.dev 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

fyi, dragonfucker is banned from 196 too. I think the moderators are pretty fair in yeeting people for being rude, regardless of opinions on gender and the like

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's why I seem so lost on this whole thing

I don't think I've ever seen their posts or comments

Edit: I also apparently had them blocked as well.

[–] Literal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can just leave, we could care less

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] khornechips@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate these word crimes!

[–] Literal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I care that he bothered to make a whole post about it yeah, but not that he's leaving

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait I just saw some femcel posts like 2 hours ago, was it actually banned?