What's an alternative that won't end up seating an insurrectionist leading a party that wants to nuke Gaza and send the National Guard to beat the shit out of protestors before moving on to ensuring Ukraine is wiped out?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally expand your political imagination outside of the presidency please. Democrats are doing genocide right now, things are going to keep getting worse the longer we don't build up a mass workers party. You can vote for Harris in November but building up a counter to Democrats and Republicans should be your primary concern.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The primary concern is keeping Repubs from taking over and ending elections, a prerequisite for your mass workers party to be viable. I would love to vote for that. Until the nation soundly rejects Repub fascism or changes to a sane voting system it isn't really an option.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol worker's parties don't need bourgeois elections to win power. See, China, ussr, Cuba

[–] chloyster@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I find this quite disingenuous. No one said that they are only thinking about the presidency? I sure as hell am not. I do everything I can in my local area to have socialist and leftist candidates representing me. A thing I have a tangible effect on. I also don't want to get labeled a child molester and be executed come January due to project 2025. Harm reduction is a real and valid goal. Just because someone wants that doesn't mean they aren't trying to do other things that can help

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I find this quite disingenuous. No one said that they are only thinking about the presidency? I sure as hell am not. I do everything I can in my local area to have socialist and leftist candidates representing me.

Expand your political imagination, this isn't enough if you want to fight fascism.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

insurrectionist

Insurrection against the US government is not a bad thing.

nuke gaza, beating protestors, ensuring ukraine is wiped out

This is happening right now under Biden. Casualties in Gaza are estimated to be on the order of 200,000 (the official numbers have stayed around 40,000 for so long now because the health ministry's capabilities have been decimated). Protestors are being beating, not just in the US tbf, also across the whole of the "democratic" and "free" west. Ukraine has been utterly failed by the western powers who have opposed both a peaceful settlement to the conflict or fully committing. Once the war ends, it doesn't matter if Biden or Trump is in charge. Ukraine will be looted again just like Russia in the 1990s.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Green party and Cornel West

Not sure if you're projecting Democrats beatdowns on anti Genocide protesters and their Genocide on the Republicans or are just in Blue Maga mode right now.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not, the Repubs have been agitating for really going after protesters. In addition to wanting to end voting, turn women into incubators, and such. They want to execute our LGBT neighbors.

"Blue MAGA" won't become a real thing if you keep saying it, it just shows that you're completely out of touch with reality.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You mean like the Democrats which are paid by Zionists to violently crack down on student protesters?

American business leaders and billionaires set up a Whatsapp group to shape public opinion on Israel's war in Gaza and urged New York City's mayor to use police to disperse a pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University.

And

Cops pumping rubber bullets into the UCLA student protest

And

Cops taser a handcuffed protester at Emory University

I'm sure you care so much about LGBT right and aren't just using it as an excuse to push an agenda. Just like you care so much about brown people being Genocided by the Democrats.