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Im considering buying a new phone and i don't really consider a Pixel. I really like Fairphones approach, with the self repairable stuff. Even though they don‘t have a headphone jack. But well… I can’t change it. I’ll definitely go with the adapter over wireless headphones.

But to my question: What private OSes are there? Fairphone sells FP4s with eOS, how is that? And does it work on the FP5? GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixels right?

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Graphene does only work on the pixel devices. What makes it special is that you can lock the bootloader again after installing it, which with things like lineage, you cannot do. I have never used /e/OS but i use lineage as my daily and it can be installed on FP

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Honestly trusting the bootloader feels very risky

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd be more worried about the ROM that runs before the bootloader that you can't inspect, or possible hardware implants if you don't trust the bootloader shipped to you from the vendor.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 years ago

I don't trust it not to be flawed

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok what is your alternative? Android Verified Boot with a secure hardware keystore like the Google Titan M2 is basically the best thing you can get.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Strong encryption with a password you know only. The password should have a high enthropy

[–] user@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is unrelated. You want to familiarize yourself with the concept of OS integrity and how it is different from data encryption. You can have a passphrase that encrypts your data alongside having access to these hardware features.

[–] user@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

It has very minimal code and its implemented in a robust manner. Unlike UEFI and the desktop implementation of secure boot, it does work well and it has not yet been exploited on pixels. Its way better to have any kind of OS integrity check than none.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In that case, have fun coding up your own bootloader and flashing it onto the device. If you can't trust the bootloader, then you can't trust anything at all from the operating system that sits on top of it, because it could be compromised. If you can't trust a bootloader, then the only thing you can trust is a pen and a piece of paper.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 years ago

True but it feels like obscurity via obscurity.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS uses pixels because not even Google employees can break into it.