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Until now, the story of Michigan’s role in the election has centered on Arab Americans’ profound discontent with the Democratic Party over Israel’s relentless devastation of Gaza. The war has left deep emotional wounds.

Israel’s recent military incursion into Lebanon feels like another twist of the knife, intensifying the sense of betrayal and alienation of one of the most critical voting constituencies in the country.

Kamala Harris’s chances of winning the presidency will plummet if she loses Michigan, and current polling shows she and Donald Trump are neck and neck there.

Come November 5, I think we may look back on the weeks after Israel invaded Lebanon as the moment Harris lost significant ground in the race.

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

If Trump is bad because he would kill Palestinians, then the 'principle' is that no one is good, because no one is stopping it.
You are trying to have your cake and eat it, too.

I reject your nihilism, it is disgusting. And I maintain that innocent people being killed is not acceptable.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In Rwanda is 1994 the Hutus killed 800,000 Tutsis in 100 days.

If Isreal were unrestrained they would have mounted bulldozer blades on their tanks, IFVs, APCs, and lined them up with their engineering vehicles and armored bulldozers, plowed the infrastructure and people of Gaza into the ocean, and built settlments on the land.

But by all means, you keep using those big words and telling yourself whatever you need to to maintain that sense of moral superiority. I hope to god that Harris wins for the sake of the Palenstinian people.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I hope to god that Harris wins for the sake of the Palenstinian people.

And what if she wins, killing innocent people continues, and you rationalise that as acceptable? After all, your preferred candidate won.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voting for anyone else will ensure the deaths of many more Palestinians under a christofascist dictatorship in the US that removes all restraints Netanyahu but you will feel good about yourself because of your principled stance. Good for you.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/kamala-harris/muslim-faith-leaders-endorse-kamala-harris-rcna174190

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but you will feel good about yourself because of your principled stance

I will, thank you! It is a good thing to be against killing.

Voting for anyone else

I'm not voting at all, because I am complying with American law. I hope you appreciate that, unless you like election laws being broken? I don't, because that will almost certainly help Trump win, overall - that's why the project so hard about election law being overrun by scary immigrants and what have you, because they intend to break those same laws to secure a victory.

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