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[–] nick@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s never happening dude, sorry; this shit’s way too entrenched. Until we start killing lobbyists and billionaires off, ain’t shit changing. Might as well be pushing Jill stein.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The answer is organizing. Join the Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) or Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO). Only through organization outside the electoral system does the Proletariat have any hope of steering the ship and seizing the reigns.

If you do not organize, then you are fine with fascism.

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You haven't even demonstrated that there is a ship to steer. I'm very against fascism, which is why I'm voting for Kamala.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What do you mean, I haven't "demonstrated that there is a ship to steer?"

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Organizing has never led to someone getting into office. Voting has led to people getting into office.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Mambert@beehaw.org -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kinda an exception, don't you think?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The opposite, I'm arguing for revolution.

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't vote for the non-fascist and also organize for revolution?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fascism isn't an idea, it's a defense mechanism. Voting isn't going to matter, vote for whoever you like, I don't care. You can vote for Harris if you join an org, how about that?

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Then make good on it. Voting is less than the bare minimum.