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[–] codydodd@lemmy.ca 68 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Careful. There is a movement right now to begin blaming democrats for everything even though MAGA still has its disgusting grip on decision making.

This article is about Trump threatening to use his executive powers. He is going to try to do things neither houses are used to seeing a president do. He is going to challenge precedent and rules as he already has. Yet you are already blaming democrats.

I agree though that the democrats are in a delicate position where they have to root the centrists out of the party. But thats not what this article is about.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I get the worry here, but that is why we voted for them. This is the exact kind of thing I expect them to stop. Demanding the things you actually want from your representatives is not wrong.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If you look through my history, you'll see that I'm well aware and have been actively arguing against those people.

At some point, however, you have to stop falling for it. They need to fix shit (or at the very least, attempt it earnestly) or else I'm done.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

You argue against them, then try to make the same exact points as them? That makes no sense.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you arguing for not holding the Dem party accountable for it's action or inaction? If there are no legislative blocks even tried, that's a bad sign. Yes, we need to root out centrists, but we also have to have votes to identify them, and Jeffries and Schumer know that.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

All the newly elected haven't even been sworn in yet and won't be until after New Years. Slow your roll, the R's are still in charge for a few more months.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, happy to wait. But so far Jeffries looks poised to be Speaker, and that's a bad sign we should be agitating about. I don't see any reason to take the pressure off and I certainly don't want to be accussed of being a MAGA plant because I want Democrats to actually deliver on an agenda of real change.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We all want Democrats to deliver, and we absolutely should hold their feet to the fire for every failure to do so. It has to be reasonable criticism though. Right now the Dems couldn't pass a fart. That changes when they actually have the butts in seats to make a difference. Jeffries is a problem, but it looks like Schumer may be replaceable and that's not nothing.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, the comment that started this was, "If Democrats don't stop this [invasion of Cuba], they should never run for anything again." (or something, the comment's behind this pop up editting window.

I think the problem with that criticism isn't that it is criticism. It's obviously phrased as an IF-THEN thing.... my problem with it is it's punishing Democrats for not effectively stopping an authoritarian president on a power congress has spent 50 years abdicating to the executive... that's kinda a high bar. My edit would be "If Democrats don't make significant attempts to stop this ...."

At the same time, I think cutting the military budget to the bone is absolutely the only way they can stop the war in Iran, and you can bet there will emaciated troops on Fox news every day explaining the Democrats are starving them .... but it is what people overwhelmingly voted for, so if you want to stop a war, guys, this is the only way to do it, and that's gonna take some chutzpah.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Although you could also take money from the pentagon, and back-door in a program through a different department to support the soldiers. Maybe send them big checks with "Democrats support the troops" on them.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Good solution!

I'm also kind confused how misappropriation of funds isn't a crime. If Congress explicitly tells you not to do something, and you do it, how is that not breaking the law?

[–] aetheplace@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

This is what impeachment is for. In fact, impeachment for withholding funds was already successful but the votes weren't there in the Senate for removal the first time round.

The problem is with reps having blind loyalty to a party and not to their oath of upholding the Constitution or providing a check on executive overreach.