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Across the coalition, some supporters who once viewed Trump as MAGA’s greatest asset are beginning to question whether he’s become its biggest liability.

The midterm losses amounted to more than a repudiation of Trump. They were a referendum on the political and cultural movement he built. A defining force in American politics that began as a campaign slogan during Trump’s 2016 presidential run now faces a potentially existential reckoning after voters disillusioned with soaring fuel prices, the Iran war and Washington corruption delivered Democrats decisive congressional majorities.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've read Altemeyer's book, but I'd forgotten that his figure was also pretty much 30%. I hope the other fella is right, and all you need to get authoritarian personalities on the same page as us societally is to make sure leadership is thoroughly and vocally prosocial. In a society like that, I'd still hate conservatives and the religious right, but things would definitely feel more politically sustainable.

That said, billionaires are outspending for conservatives everywhere and mostly getting what they want from everyone who isn't a conservative, and capitalism makes that the likeliest outcome. The Nazis have to be fought from every direction, top-down and bottom-up - and yes, that means also punching sideways. I've tearfully shed a few dear friends who can't get with the program myself, and one who outright went insane with incel racist shit after too much 4chan. Each one of them does need to change and grow, but it's deluded to think they're our job to fix.

Even walked away from a friend of 20 years. I still have a pretty complete mental model of him in my brain. I haven't needed to talk to him to know what he'd say for years, and nothing I could think to say was changing his mind. So I gave up. Fuck conservatives, authoritarians, and billionaires forever.

So yeah, longwinded comment to say I basically agree, but I haven't given up all hope yet.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry about your loss of friends. Your comment about knowing exactly what your friend of 20 years would say in any situation and realizing he cannot be saved really resonates with me.

I also hope the other commenter (and Altemeyer) are right, although I have not read the book. I have a glimmer of hope for us, particularly after seeing the results of the midterms. But the fact that we're having this conversation suggests we all know the fight is nowhere near done. Esoecially as long as billionaires exist.

Stay strong. You are not alone, as much as it may sometimes feel that way. The more people I talk openly with about these subjects, the more common experiences I find, even with people I would not have suspected felt similarly. All the advice to "find community" seems to be pretty accurate, albeit challenging.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Bob Altemeyer's The Authoritarians book is the one thing I would recommend to someone like yourself, they demystify the mindset of these people in a way that doesn't condone them or sugarcoat anything, but still manages to make them back into comprehensible human beings. The author's passed away but his site offers them for free, super recommend. I should reread them, apparently I haven't digested everything.

Unrelated tangent about another book in the same mental category for me (transformative, reframes some of my life's struggles in a way that makes it easier to process, clear and concise professional writing style) is Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. These two books had all the tools I need to begin to heal from the sorry predicament of being me, in this time and place. Maybe you'd feel the same? Pardon the random too-familiar sidebar.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for the excellent recommendations. I've been looking for a new line of books, and these sound like a good fit. It's hard for me to imagine forgiving any conservatives right now. I think my anger for these overt comic book villains makes it hard to see alternative views of them, but I'd love to find some glimmer of hope that there is a peaceful solution to all this.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

More importantly, you can't really process things emotionally without understanding why they happened, if you're anything like me. Knowing why society is fucked helps me get to a better place mentally and - in my wildest dreams, puts me in a position to make any changes that leave the world better than I found it. By the same token, learning why I grew up too early and always felt emotionally lonely can hopefully help me raise my kid so he doesn't have that issue. These books help. <3