As a Canadian, I'm seeing too many people thinking everything can now immediately go back to "normal". None of the actual work has started yet.

Yes, absolutely celebrate this, but if you act like things are "over" you need a reality check. Americans voted against Trump in 2020, and then elected him again after seeing what he did the first time.

So yes, this is absolutely a great first step, but it needs to be followed with criminals being held accountable and Americans not voting the other way again in 2 or 4 years. Considering Democratic leaders are already talking about not holding criminals accountable it seems prudent to splash some water on people acting like this is over and they can stop pushing.

I was spending my time volunteering for Democrats campaigns, and I’m still barely enthused with the result.

It’s a very small step forward in a possibility of a government that works for its people. But anyone smart on here knows that goes much more fine-grained than the color maps.

(Red is obvious. But blue? Blue is still many shades of gray)

I swear to god the double trauma of COVID and Trump during formative periods of some peoples’ lives made it pathologically impossible for them to take a win for even a day or two. That’s how you burn the fuck out. Don’t rest on your laurels, but making people feel like nothing is ever enough is how you get them to stop showing up.

You'd think that but have a look at hexbear's midterms containment thread. The way they speak about it internally is different. They are very happy the Republicans lost, they jsut don't care that it's the democrats who won.

All the tankies I've talked to seem to be fully in favor of accelerationism -- just wanting whatever will cause the most damage to the US the fastest. So, yeah -- they were absolutely rooting for the Republicans.

The tankies want Trump to win because they think that after he's destroyed the US, a socialist utopia will rise from the ashes.

They probably wanted progressive wing to collapse before getting back in the seat. Now people have a reference point to compare them to and hopefully democrats that can't live up to that will get rooted out instead.

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/james-carville-says-he-prefers-gop-win-midterms-because-dems-would-be-hostage-to-dsa-democratic-socialists-of-america

With the way they're acting, you'd think that these dudes wanted Republicans to maintain control.

Oh believe me, they do. I've literally been told how much more awful Democrats are than Republicans. IIRC, the reasoning behind that was some vague shit about liberals watering down true leftism or something. Like, yeah, one side wants to establish a fascist totalitarian government and has literally set out to murdering foreigners and dissenters with ICE, but hey, your identity politics are more important.

I mean Schumer and Jeffries are out there taking the "high" road again, so the first indication that positive change is coming would be those two fucking off to the other side of the sun.

I’m old enough to remember Blue Waves hitting the rocks of Decorum and Civility and doing fuck all. I’m not getting my hopes up ever again.

They’ll tell you that they do. I’ve had some tell me that electoralism won’t bring about socialism and things have to get way worse before the people revolt.

It's not defeatism. It's acknowledging the reality of the situation. They can pass all the wonderful legislation they want. Trump will veto it and they do not have a veto proof majority. He has already said he is going to become "Mr. Veto".