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[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You said this:

no stone or board related directly to the man and not his victims. Should have been left intact.

I disagree with you because I don't believe that history should ever be repeated. Seeing how he acted, through how he shaped the country, is important to preventing that

For example, did you know this particular location has a grand, 400 foot golden elevator?

Put yourself in the shoes of an average MAGA supported who does not agree with genocide

They'd get to Eagle's Nest, step in that golden elevator and think, "wow, this is nice. A lot like Trump's tastes."

Then They'd get top the top and see the grandeur of Eagle's Nest and the incredible view. They may never have realized Germany was quite properous during the early third reich

Then they'll get to the monument and museum portions. They'll be reminded of the 7 million dead and the horrors of genocide and authoritarians

I think that's a good event to get the gears in their head turning. Whether it's direct parallels like Hitler's gold elevator resembling Trump's affinity for gold, or the understanding that the Holocaust was only possible with the indifference of the average German who was content to live in relative luxury

Many Nazis supported Hitler because of the same mundane reasons the average person supports Trump or Putin. Promises of lower cost of living, increased income, prestige on the global stage, and most importantly a scapegoat to blame problems on

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm going to just gloss over your extremely naive scenario where these Nazi lovers go to the top of the elevator and then open their eyes and learn something. Cuz I mean come on.

Instead let's move on to this. This isn't hypothetical. We already know that Nazis make pilgrimages to this place. Some of them even take pictures about it and then go on to be Republican legislators. This place which was always a monument to Hitler, still is. Or was maybe hopefully. This isn't a matter of debate. You're arguing for an active Nazi Monument to which Nazis make pilgrimages.

I'm all for the museums. I'm all for the remembrances. Build them. But I don't want to keep the God damn Hitler monument. Also I don't know if you fucking noticed, but it ain't stopping history from repeating. So maybe a better way to stop history from repeating is to tear down The Monuments glorifying the history we would don't want repeated. Then build your museums.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 1 week ago

The structure isn't an exhibition that will change a Nazis mind. Nick Fuentes and Madison Cawthorn are among many such Nazis, American specifically. Who revere or go there to be closer to Hitler and learn nothing.

There are no maga by definition that don't support genocide. There are those that won't support it publicly, but that's not the same thing.

Had the old structure been razed and a new one with no direct connection to Hitler been built. The exhibition would have been much more effective. Like I said it's become a thing among many of these Nazis to go visit there personally, to unironically celebrate hitler. And they learn nothing. Similarly when Trump dies Mar-A-Lago needs to be stripped of all valuable raw material and torn to the ground. Regardless of its past history. It's connection to Trump will be toxic and linger. They will legitimately go there to worship Him.