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Scientists trusted less than businessmen when discussing social issues, study finds
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You literally sound like this MAGA I talked to yesterday who was doing concern trolling in Phillip Defranco's channel. Dude literally and openly showed that he believed Trump when he said the Jeffrey Files didn't exist. He stopped replying like all these fucking pussies always do. You both radiate the same cynical sociopathic vibe I felt while replying to him, you both only care about yourselves more than the innocent:
Yall are still defending Fauci its like nothing was learned.
Republicans are causing issues and they no longer have a competent advisary to hold them accountable.
We are currently helping China build military bases near the border so they can do whatever they want.
All thanks to MAGA convincing us of who the bad guys actually are. Thank you for that!
We gave you over 20 years to help us fix this issue with the Iron River, but you didn't do anything. So, listen to me: You are the bad guys. Ok? And you know what happens to bad guys? They lose.
Either learn to respect what Hasan stands for, or we will make you understand why he is more right than you are. Just look at you, you DO NOT CARE about the 30,000+ Mexicans we lose every year. That's over 30,000+ families destroyed and permanently traumatized every single year. If you won't help us stop that, that means you enjoy it.
Maybe I should help my local Mexican CS do what they do to you instead. Hasan was the only person holding me back, because he is currently one of the most humane influencers there are. Hence the reason MAGAs keep attacking them with hoaxes and nonsense.
Why do you hate him? Because of what he said about America and September 11? Do you think he is wrong about that? Because to us, Mexicans, that'd be justice.
Yet just a message ago you were bitching America caused it and trump is bad.
You really think I am going to forgive you now after what you just said to me?
Listen to me. In your name, I will give the CS enough money for them to cover your hands with more than a 100 young ones of your people.
You don't take our pleas and cries seriously, why should we do that? You are not fixing the issue NOW, or a YEAR AGO? Then we won't fix it either. Go on, smile. Your words had real consequences. Go on and carry in your consciousness that you have personally pushed me to do this to your own people. All because you refuse to help us.
You really think I am going to forgive you now after what you just said to me?
Alright then. It seems you want me to support the CS, right? You want me to help them do what they do to America? Is that what you want? Are you going to insult me and try to silence me after everything you have done to us? With your taxes? With your votes?
Alright then. If that's what you want, you will get it. Carry it in your consciousness, that your words actually had real consequences. All because you refuse to respect us.
I cannot believe you called me dumb for being angry at your lack of action. Over 20 years we waited, and this is how you reply to us? Yeah. China is going to win.
Like you're making this about other Presidents when current one is as we speak enacting anti cartel policy.
Do you support that or are you too emotionally immature to admit it
"They are enacting anti-cartel policies, look. Be thankful. We are heroes"
And you further go on to insult me. Says a dude who will never have even a quarter of what the average baby boomer had at their age, like 7+ children, a home at 19 years old, economic stability, or at least a happy family of four without a college degree. Why? Are they smarter, work harder, or what?
All i did was ask if you support the anti cartel policies?
Why would you deflect like this?
Just say yes or no if you support anti cartel policies you clearly were complaining about the cartel.
Are you actually this emotionally immature?
Is that who you support? You think responding like this is gonna stop us from opening your head to the truth?
Call me emotionally immature if you want. We will show you what real immature looks like. Have fun. A lot of it will be in your name. You can finally and openly say your words have genuinely provoked people like me to invest in the production of the big F. A product your children love so much.
Keep telling us to trust in your Jeffrey Class president. Go on. Do it. We will just continue doing what we do now, because it's clear what you truly are.
It's over. You will deserve every second of it.
Can you understand now why people think the USA deserved September and deserves a lot more than just that? Do you see why it's really not a controversial take to say anymore?
You only tried to silence and hurt me with insults after I showed you my anger at the fact we are losing so many innocent people every year nonstop. Why? What are you? You still think being an edgy emo is cool? Do you understand what is going to happen now? It's gonna be funny, but to us only :) Responder
And yes, I don't give a fuck that my YouTube username is there, which shows who I am in real life. I got nothing to hide, nothing to lose. The people I should be "afraid of" already know who I am and have let me know it. I don't give a fuck anymore, you MAGAs fucking suck and I promise I will use my own hands to open as many of their heads to the truth as I can. Do not ever taint the image of the Nordics like this ever again, you ignorant dumbfuck.
Literally, when he said "like you're so dumb, you're complaining about the president who is openly anti Cartel" that was the point of no return. You sound just like that. "It is not capitalism. It is not my favorite system that is wrong. It's everyone else. It's you." Yet you didn't really explain how, because you can't. Greed is absolutely exacerberated by having a lot of wealth and power, it's such a massive cliché in movies and shows, I cannot believe that you'd still say something that fucking stupid. Like, dude. Did you ever watch a Disney movie or show when you were a child or what?
Did you even have a childhood or watch scenes like these at all? https://youtu.be/xIFpiCWIOac
I thought that already the day it happened. And I was in no way surprised by the attack, only how successful it was.
But I honestly don't care to debate you, because you are making false assumptions about me and strawmen out of nowhere.
You are delusional.
You are whitewashing capitalism's role in the Iron River, dude. You sure I am the delusional one? Or can you explain how is it not capitalism's fault?
What's next? Showing loli porn to potential pedophiles is completely safe? It doesn't really have any side effects? Just like having a lot of money and power, everyone saying "yes" to you, not questioning your orders, your whishes. That has 0 effect on people according to you, right? The moment all those people with stocks in companies that produce those guns felt the dopamine hit after selling a massive crate to a Mexican cartel, you think they said, "wow, I just made 5 million dollars in less than a month by selling these guns to a bunch of Mexicans. Let's NEVER do it again!"
Why? Whose fault it was then? Communism? Socialism? The Devil? Some imaginary force? Human nature? Dude. Money, and capitalism, when unchecked, create these people. And you need socialist and communist policies to keep it under check, but you see, you keep talking shit about those systems, to convince people of never looking for a solution there. I wonder why.
Also the fact you still hold those arguments about communism and socialism never working, those are things I used to say when I was 14 years old. But then I read more and more and realized most of the attempts were sabotaged by the majority of capitalistic countries, through trade, policies, tariffs, even infiltration. Are you one of those dumbfucks who blame Cuba for what it's going through right now? "It's not the embargo or tariffs the US laid upon them, it was because of communism!" That's literally what MAGAs are currently saying. They blame communism for what Cuba has gone through and is going through. Do you really believe that?
You realize those are 100% MAGA talking points? Are you a "vote blue no matter who" dem or something? They are always blue MAGA American Exceptionalists who still talk like this. Even Kamala went right-wing at the end of her campaign, remember? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpZ2XYEVmZU and https://youtu.be/iqbZ46GffOo).
You think that, when we Mexicans heard Kamala say she wants the US to continue being the "strongest and most lethal battling force in the world" we felt relief or hope? Maybe the dumbest ones who don't read shit did. But those who do, like me, who even learnt your language and speaks it better than you do, knows that that is the worst shit we could ever hear. It's a threat. It's a promise that the loop of death and destruction will continue no matter if the president has a D or an R next to them. Since I was a child, I saw them all say similar shit: George, Obama, Trump, Biden, Kamala... 25+ years and shit only has gotten much, much worse. And here you are, still trying to convince us that we must trust this world, this system that keeps proving you wrong. Why? How am I delusional for that?
Do you believe Gavin Newsom is a good choice? Man. You people are so transparent, I don't need to assume, just dig with the simplest of questions you can answer with a "yes" or "no", and when you refuse to answer them, it just makes your real stance more obvious.
If your loyalty still belongs to a country, a political party, or a religion, you suck. It either belongs to humanity and the entire world first or gtfo.
Nothing of the sort, I don't even know what Iron river is. I never claimed anything about capitalism and Iron River, my claim was that whatever it is about, it is not a fault of a functional democracy. Literally because USA is not a functional democracy.
Sadly this is the drop, and I'll have to block you, because you are making completely baseless accusations based on something going on in your own head??
And I don't want to participate in that.
Rich, coming from the guy who said I know nothing about their reality. What a demonic cowardly piece of shit. It's always the same with all the MAGAs, they run away like this. They are the fucking worst. They know they have been exposed, and since they are little narcissists who only care about themselves, they gotta run and hide before they are further humiliated in public. You just didn't want to further show your real colors, because you know, deep down, that they are gross as fuck. You Nordics are super racist just like Americans, that's why MAGAs love you and always fantasize about going there and having sex with your blonde women. It's MAGA's paradise.
The whole way "happiness" is measured is also so stupid and incomplete. The Life Evaluation the ONU does literally goes around asking this:
"Imagine a ladder with steps numbered from 0 at the bottom to 10 at the top. The top of the ladder represents the best possible life for you and the bottom represents the worst possible life. On which step of the ladder would you say you personally feel you stand at this time?"
However, Nordic countries are known for having cultural norms like the "Law of Jante," which encourage modest expectations. Aka: "Be a conformist with the little you have so the Jeffrey Epstein Class can have fun in silence, not listen to your whining." And so, the domino effect is when you don't expect life to be an extraordinary emotional spectacle, it is much easier to evaluate your life as an "8 out of 10." That is what is happening to the Nordics. It's fake. You are not as happy as you think you are. You are just numb. The Life Evaluation measures contentment and security, not emotional bliss or happiness.
You also pushed me to investigate a little more about Nordics' general psychology and socioeconomic structures. Nordic nations have notable rates of antidepressant usage, high seasonal affective disorder during dark winters, and strict social expectations that can make outsiders or struggling individuals feel deeply isolated. In short: you've believed some stupid ass headlines that oversimplified your reality all this time, bro. That's how the Jeffrey Epstein Class got you by the balls. They turned you all into these cold conformists who now feel very proud and confident to say whatever nonsense you say online. Fuck off, man lmao. Thanks for making me read these new information about Nordic nations. I feel pity for them now. I did used to think they were more "classy," but after this, they sound to me like the average working class Mexican or American too. You are not special or unique. You are a human like anyone else. You are just like the rest. The only thing I envy you for, are the bidets, if you even use them. That's it. That's the only thing I wish my country adopted from yours. Your sense of humor or social abilities, though? No thank you. Mexicans are better at that, they are always described as friendly and very comradery-like. We don't kick out children from their homes the moment they turn 18 for example, families here support their children until they die. I might be an exception, I know I am an asshole, but at least I target people that are worse than me only, because there is nothing I hate more than racists, misogynists, sadists, etc. I wish we could save those people before they turn evil, I don't really want to "erase them all" or "endlessly punish them with pain" cause that doesn't solve the main problem, which is our nature. I rather we fund education, more psychologists, more doctors, etc.
And the only viable way to do that is socialism right now. Capitalism already failed us so bad, seeing you simp for it and then running away without even making a single defense for it, that just fucks its reputation even more, so, at least that's the only positive in your decision here.
You won't be able to block people in real life. Someday, these cries and pleas will reach you face-to-face, and you clearly are not prepared at all to reply to them. The angry mob of people will simply open your head to the truth and move on without wasting any more time. I tried to at least help you, it'd be better if you encountered the "crazy" person here online, in a safer environment, see what goes through their minds after all the violence and death they have been forced to witness and experience. See if you can reach a consensus that puts both in a better position. I don't care about the bad words, you will have to get used to them, because we have experienced some of the most cynical evil shit possible. Talking like this help us with relief, look it up: Swearing helps relieve stress.
The fact you never swear OR at least FEEL angry at what has been done to us, even after I clearly described what the Iron River was (guns pouring into Mexico) tells me you're such a privileged little boy who never faced any real challenge in their life, a little junior who played life on Super Easy Mode, forever inside a bubble. Of course everything you said about Denmark now comes across as naive and a sketched lie. You did nothing but further convince me that you are assholes just like the MAGAs that hate Latinos or barely try to address them or communicate with them.
You rather block and run away like a fucking pussy instead of at least giving something regarding capitalism or the iron river, which I clearly showed you why I think they are closely related. Good then. Stay in the dark where you belong. I will easily keep convincing people that people like you are the bad guys. That capitalism needs to be dismantled or completely reworked. That nobody needs religion to be a good person anymore. That patriotism is something only those who haven't became an Homo Sapiens think, and I am not even kidding; we see it in animals. We analyze the behavior of different apes. The chimpanzees are known for being so violent to eachother, the same way MAGAs are, killing eachother for food or the dumbest shit possible. Gorillas are more paternal, more caring, softer, but, still very hierarchical, and if provoked, they're very destructive and strong, just like dems. Then there are the Bonobos, they solve everything with sex and love, rarely violence, although they do cross the line and involve infants and teenagers, which is gross.
You still talk about your country like humankind is competing, so. You make it easier for us, I can show people how inhumane you are, you don't even have the guts to tolerate an online discussion like this, let alone some real shit when it finally comes down to it, like a protest in your local street, joining a union, standing up for someone being abused in plain sight, perhaps, even fighting for what you are truly worth, you just cannot, so. Nobody should ever, ever trust someone like you ever again. You are just a coward, and that's the last thing we need in my country right now.