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In an attempt to better understand Lemmy I’m wondering if some of you can shed a light on what the deal is between.ml and .world. The history, any significant event or a betrayal, how did we all run away from spez only to come here and throw mud at each other?

I’m sure it confuses a great deal of Reddit refugees who just signed up with the largest instance because of (in my case future proofing) reasons.

I’m wondering how this historic feud came to be and how I can be called a “Zionist” just because of my instance, and they are called “fascists” even though I’ve come across some pretty levelheaded people from that instance too.

Please, keep it civil!

I’m not trying to start a fight or mud slinging, it would be good if several people could say their piece and nobody shame or attack them for it no matter how much you disagree.

Thanks

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 39 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I know nothing about lemmy.world, but lemmy.ml and hexbear.net are filled with tankies (aka angry teenagers IMHO) and have been defederated with a lot of instances.

lemmy.ml is writing the original source code of Lemmy, but I don't remember any betrayal. Most users are not throwing mud, we mostly and politely ignore each other I guess.

(anyway, come to https://piefed.social/ instead because it's the best frontend!)

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Is Piefed still using a hidden shadowban list?

[–] i_need_your_bones@piefed.social 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When did that happen? I've only heard of that frontend UI doing that

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The history is a bit confusing because the frontend scandal you’re referring to was for a frontend called “tesseract”, but piefed has also long had a questionable blacklist of phrases applied to screenshots and stuff using the Tesseract OCR toolkit. Piefed has been much more open about it than the frontend dev was, but it’s the same idea:

https://join.piefed.social/2026/08/04/anti-fascist-piefed-features/

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I hadn’t caught this blog post previously, thanks for sharing

[–] Maiq@piefed.zip 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 1 points 4 days ago

He was a bit of a zionist, but otherwise decent.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Its instance based and not hidden. Last time I checked(?) Its been a while since I dove into the source code. But anyone can.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 15 points 4 days ago

Tankies are not just "angry teenagers" but in fact hostile advocates of militaristic dictatorships, many of whom are under their direct employ.

[–] 13igtyme@startrek.website 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Piefed.social and most piefed is created by a man baby that bans anyone that ask or criticizes his shitty decisions. Check numbers and you'll see that over the past several months Piefed has been slowly decreasing in daily active users.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

It there some alternative raising up?