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I often see on here that someone that says they are Center just means they are right wing.

Eg. this post https://piefed.social/c/wikipedia@lemmy.world/p/2492350/centre-party

Center Party = Far right.

And I get that that is often true, but that got me thinking, when is someone actually "Center?"

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[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

A lot of the centerists you call far right are also getting called far left by the right. Centrists tend to pick and choose left or right or neither on each issue individually and don't pick sides.

Believe it or not, there are right beliefs that are not far right Nazi beliefs, the mundane day to day stuff. Genuine belief in lower government control and lower taxes for example. Unfortunately we didn't see any of that come true with this presidency.

And to be clear, I am a leftist, but one who believes in human free will. As long as you genuinely believe in doing the right thing and not harming others, we can debate all day on what exactly that looks like, but the minute it turns into the usual grift, I'm out.

[–] Fallibilist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most people want the same things - they just disagree how to get there.

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Which makes it important to think and speak about goals, not measures. If — for example — people screaming for deportation of (to them) undesirables would instead think about what they hope to achieve with it, at least some of them would end up with problems close to them they need solved for a personal better life and those could typically be solved by other, less hateful, means.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, the problem for the right is that their non-Nazi beliefs are wildly unpopular so they have to boost the signal with racism.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

I often mention there used to be some sanity in the right but they have been abandoning principle since way before trump. I feel like you sorta need to go pre nixon to get back to where they should be. I know I for one will not accept the republican party as just a political party at this point as I feel they violated the constitution as a party. If conservatives find themselves and put up a new shingle and show a commitment to principles again I might accept them as legitimate.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think the main issue is that Left & Right really shouldn't be a thing.

You can be Pro-Gun and Pro-Abortion, it should really be issue specific.

The two party system fucks us, or the US at least, which then fucks the rest of us

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

it's not a US specific thing.

It's a human being thing. People just want a reason to dismiss you and hate you, rather than talk to you. Political beliefs are just the latest thing people get upset about.

decades ago it was race or religion. but folks are less racist and less religious, politics has replaced it as the go-to reason to dismiss people as awful and evil.

and on lemmy, well, centrism is evil because everyone here thinks they are the sole source of all correct and good views on politics and anyone who disagrees with them is right-wing because they are good and right-wing is evil. as you can see from most of the comments here.

Could not agree more

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Even further for many things there is a question of absolute national do it anytime and letting local juristictions decide. So folks can be like absolutist about something or more locality while being for something. So basically being pro or anti can be a bit more in between itself.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

90% of lemmy leftist don't believe in free will.

the concept of individual making choices is facism, or so I have repeatedly been lectured on here.

[–] Fallibilist@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

I don't believe in free will either but it has nothing to do with fascism nor do I identify as leftist.