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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] eurodyne@piefed.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I won’t blame the left before I’ll blame conservatives, but those on the left have at least a little bit of blame… All this infighting and finger-pointing and factional divisiveness? How is that helping? It’s exactly what the conservatives want: infighting amongst ourselves rather than focusing on the real problems that the conservatives are causing.

Sure, we didn’t cause the problems, but a bunch of internal bickering sure isn’t going to fix any of them. And we are well past figuring out who is to blame for all of it. It’s time to start working on long lasting solutions.

But I don’t see a lot of that going on. Just a bunch of grievances and more people looking for more people to blame.

[–] wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could say that about any political group. Even MAGA is fracturing, as well as Alberta, Canada separatists. The Canadian conservatives have fractured and joined forces again so. Many. Times.

So why blame the left for things literally anywhere?

Also, before you pull out purity tests, whenever someone complains about purity tests, its usually a disgarmeent that human rights belong to everyone. Thats usually what they mean.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't find blame-shifting whataboutisms particularly helpful, either.

way to miss the point

So you blamed the left for looking for someone to blame, while blaming that problem only on the left. So how is an example of it happening everywhere whataboutism?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How is that helping?

By pointing out that liberals are part of the problem, laying the groundwork for throwing out false solidarity with the elites and building a climate movement based on class solidarity? You cannot solve the problem if you refuse to understand the problem. Seriously, read the article; it's high-quality stuff.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

How is it false solidarity to acknowledge that the climate crisis affects everybody?

How does dividing up everybody into little groups, how does creating all of this conflict help anybody?

How does it do anything but make you feel better about your own sense of identity?

How is it anything but a bunch of circle jerking?

Because it sure as shit isn’t fixing the climate to tell me how much better you are than everyone else

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe... maybe the article has the answers to your questions?

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you can’t even defend your own position, then why bother arguing it at all?

At this point, you’re just parroting something someone else told you. It doesn’t come off as even the slightest bit sincere— or even that you convincingly understood it in the first place.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reported for bad faith argument/trolling.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Pointing out that your logic is fundamentally flawed, and that you can’t even defend your own argument is “bad faith”?

Isn’t that what Trump does when he hears something he doesn’t like? Blame everyone else?

What side are you on anyway?