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[–] Fallibilist@feddit.uk 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Worry about population decline isn't about wanting more people. It's about wanting there to be enough working-age people to cover the retirement and medical payments of the ones no longer working. We know exactly how many 30-year-olds we'll have in 20 years and it's simply not enough. Something has to give and usually the first to go is the benefits for the people who most need them.

[–] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or maybe the something that has to give is a minority class of people (the .1%) getting a few percent higher tax "burden"

[–] Fallibilist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I highly doubt that would be anywhere near enough even if the issue was only limited to the country with the highest number of ultra wealthy people which it isn't.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Elon Musk could end world hunger. Full stop. He wouldn’t even notice the dip in his finances. (He offered once, claiming if someone gave him a concrete number, he would pay it, and a nonprofit took him up on it. Surprise, surprise, the whiny little snit backed out.)

They totally could fix the problem. But to those rich shitheads, it’s not a problem. It’s a feature.

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sort of depend on perspective, hunger only exists because there's no political will to remove it.

We produce more food globally than we consume, and we can multiply it several times with the same cost of space by swapping more meat for vegan crops.

We have plenty of space for everyone to have shelter, the problem is largely due to the issue that most people want to live in a metropolitan area. So the price for living in a highly sought out location increases to unmanageable levels.

A key factor is the big difference between the kinds of jobs you can get in a more rural location compared to the bigger urban centers. Everyone are forced to move to urban locations to study, causing most people to form their first adult social and professional circles around whichever urban location they studied at.

There's a lot of minor things that needs to be done, what exactly differs by country. But making the rural regions more accessible to live in should be considered across most countries. One simple first step, would be to make remote capable jobs offer their workers to do it all remotely. Government office workers, could quite easily spearhead such an initiative; I bet some people would move closer to nature, if they could hold onto their bread

[–] GonzoAtBarstow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That falls back to "ponzi schemes aren't sustainable"

It's broken.

[–] ageedizzle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The problem with calling it a ponzi scheme is that this would apply in all contexts, even in very basic economies without money. If you have a tribe of hunter gathers and suddenly they have a sharp decrease in their birth rate, they too would have a hard time taking care of their elderly/children.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Enough for what? There are plenty of unemployed people.

[–] Fallibilist@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Literally says right there.

..there to be enough working-age people to cover the retirement and medical payments of the ones no longer working.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

We can make more money.

Why the obsession with only retirees? What matters is the dependency ratio.

The dependency ratio counts the total number of dependents, not just the retirees the eugenicists like to focus on. By the end of the century, globally we'll have a dependency ratio similar to the level it was in the mid-20th century.