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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Considering how inexpensive it is to put in a 30A, 50A, or 60A circuit, and how modern L2 chargers can both downrate dynamically and be activated with simple apps or cards, this is not a difficult problem to solve.

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Considering how inexpensive it is to put in a 30A, 50A, or 60A circuit

I have a 50A circuit that i just installed. And previously installed a 30A circuit at my last house. It's not inexpensive. A 50A breaker and 30 feet of 6/2 Romex with ground costs $240. Then add in a 40A capable Grizzl-E Classic for another $299 and you're on your way to $600.

If you're like me, you also buy conduit for the wiring in the garage to keep it dry/protected and a receptacle rather than hardwiring to allow for a little more flexibility.

Easy, yes. Cheap, no.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Only $600??? That's cheap as hell! I thought you were going to say $2k at the absolute lowest

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 hours ago

You do not want 50A 240V circuit built cheap, because of the circuits arcs, the house will burn down. The proper way to do it is a pony box for the charger circuit only, and special plug hardware designed for 100% duty cycles, not clothes dryers. States haven't even updated codes for EV charge circuits.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That’s only $10/mo over a 5 year period.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Great which contractor offers those terms?

I have a 50a charger installed but holy hell this comment is silly.

You still have to pay up front for the charger+wiring. That can be a deal breaker for many, and the point is apartments are much harder as most don't offer any electricity for even l1 charging

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Think like a business and it makes sense.

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that'd be nice if people could take on debt and adjust cash flows like a business, but a lot of people don't have the financial flexibility to spend $600 in a lump payment. That's why people keep bringing up 60+ percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. I'm fortunate enough to be able to make those types of purchases a couple times a year, but I know my privilege is not the norm.

The best someone may be able to do is 12mo financing on a new credit card with 0% apr, but miss a payment and its 25% interest. If they even get approved.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I’m talking about apartments and workplaces.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Again most people can't afford the up front cost.

Its expensive to be poor, and most people are poor

They are already in debt paying huge amount of interest monthly.

I like being able to charge at home and it's a luxury I know not everyone gets.

For the numbers:

Paying off a $600 charge at $10/month like you suggested would take almost 13 years and cost over $900 in interest at a 18% apr

So you are spending almost 50% more on interest than the original charge. So 150% more expensive at 1500 vs 600.

For a 5 year payoff you have to spend just over $15/month but still are paying over $300 in interest. That's now over $900 total or 50% more expensive because you can't afford the up front cost.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Apartments would pay for it, not individuals. Having EV chargers would be a selling point, allowing higher rent.

Poor people are generally not driving EVs yet.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

That's the thing, they should be. They are much cheaper especially taking into account less maintenance.

[–] Pyro@pawb.social 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Then you have where my apt had another company put in and manage the charges but they charge 15 cents more a kw then the fast charger around the corner.

I don't mind sitting every so often in the morning drinking some tea while charging but it would be nice if it's faster

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

Ugh, greedy landlords.