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There's zero mention of a baby being present. Verse 28 says she will be free to conceive. The Hebrew just mentions the same that her womb swells up and she becomes infertile and inflicted with heavy periods, which would make her "unclean". Also, the State of Israel isn't a Christian country, so I don't see how that's relevant.
The Christian’s use the same book and have made shit up
But I’m looking online and some say this is the abortion verse but you’re right even the Jewish word for abortion is not used
As far as whether any verse is about abortion is interesting to me, but the Bible is ridiculous to use as any kind of modern day reference to what law should or shouldn’t be
No, the State of Israel isn't dictated by the Old and New Testament canons of scripture. Jews also use the Talmud and fully reject Christ. You cannot claim that abortion is okay in Christianity because the state of Israel - a Jewish country - have it legalised.
Christians can stick the Bible up their ass. I don’t really care what it says or doesn’t say in the Bible, and I won’t allow the Bible to have a say in any laws where I live.
I am interested though in what people are saying the Bible says, and this verse is frequently used to justify abortion.
To find it I just googled abortion Bible verse, there are apparently others as well.
Judaism is a much older religion than Christianity obviously, but the Hebrew Bible and the commentary are a good place to start when learning about Judaism
Why didn't you just say that then? You don't need to use the Bible to justify your political opinions.
Judaism in it's current form isn't the same Judaism that existed before Christ. After Christ came, Christianity was formed due to prophetic fulfillments and modern-day Judaism came from doctrine trying to explain away what just happened (as some dude showed up, fulfilled their prophecies, claimed to be God, was crucified then rose from the dead), notably the talmud. So we could equally say we're as old as Judaism. Kind of like how the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Church both claim to be the oldest- but they split 1000 years ago and both have changed quite a bit since