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[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Shout out to Matrix, which is federated, self hostable, open source, and supports end to end encryption.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Matrix is a bit of a shit show and also isn’t a discord alternative to begin with.

[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 14 points 13 hours ago

Matrix is a Discord alternative, but not a Discord clone

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 15 points 17 hours ago

Matrix is a bit of a shit show

How so?

and also isn’t a discord alternative to begin with

It absolutely is. A "Space" is the equivalent to a Discord "server". It's not perfect and polished, but it does the job. I've been using it rather than Discord with my gaming group for a year now.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I've been using Matrix for over a decade now. How is it a shitshow?

[–] xiii@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I wouldn’t call it a shit show, they were first in E2E encrypted collaborative messaging platforms and get all the hits. Moderation turned out to be incompatible with E2E encryption. People kicked out of channels can still decrypt because keys revocation hasn’t been made.

Matrix server is a resource hog and a mess, and the protocol has never took off to spark alternative implementations.

Encryption doesn’t scale well for big channels.

They got many things right, but got crippled by many things they couldn’t possibly predict.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 58 minutes ago

I had never used Matrix outside direct messaging so I was unaware of the lack of key revocation.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 hours ago

The entire concept of it is a shit show. It's the prime example of anti user design.

It's a functional system, with the entire concept of user friendly design and non power user being ignored.

It's made by power users and engineers for power users and engineers. It's fantastic for what it is.