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There is there classic film called passport to pimlico.
The story of how technically speaking pimlico belonged to some foreign prince. At the time because the post war rationing was making life difficult... They all decided to secede the UK. Only to find the actually rationing wasn't that bad when faced with all of the other issues that came from being isolationist.
It was relevant then. It was relevant during the brexit referendum. And it is relevant today.
Although this shouldn't be confused for the cases Scotland Ireland and Wales make for independence.
How funny would it be for them to instead vote to kick England out of the UK? "We're mostly fine with maintaining our unification under a monarchy, but (and we can't stress this enough) fuck England's politicians with an unlubed rake."
Just a heads up: Ireland has independence. Maybe you're thinking of unification or independence of Northern Ireland.
Fair point
Why? Devolving power is a good thing.
Oh absolutely. That's what I'm saying. The biggots in this village, and the movie I'm referencing, seem to think that all their problems will disappear if they break away.
Scotland Wales and Ireland absolutely should have independence should they want it. There's a big difference. These aren't tiny groups of people who think all of their woes will evaporate as soon as they declare independence.
To be fair this does describe the SNP quite well! I'm a strong believer that a democratic institution is only worthy of the name if you can leave, but the Yes campaign's whitepaper was very sloppy on its economics for example, it did a lot of wishful thinking around oil prices and Westminster paying for pension entitlements. The SNP is also incredibly crooked as it turns out, I'd be properly miffed if I was a Scot that petty corruption was damaging the credibility of the broader independence movement.
I have a lot more time for Plaid Cymru though, they're doing the right things on the subject and they're definitely a lot less shady in my view. Welsh independence is obviously even more challenging economically, but Plaid seem to be pacing themselves sensibly and building trust rather than going full-tilt into an ill-conceived gamble. I can see them delivering independence credibly in the future. Also they've done very well to gain enough seats from Labour to overturn their century-long Welsh streak.