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This is unacceptable. And I’m sick of all the fucking workarounds to maintain basic privacy.

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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

You'd be cut off from most of the web best-case, potentially even the entire web worst-case if this moves up the chain to the ISP level and ISPs start requiring trusted OSes like Android, iOS, Windows, or macOS to even access the web, at which point the entire global web becomes an NK-style intranet, and I wouldn't be surprised if some legislators are actively considering taking it that far.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If it gets like that them I think everyone moves to some darkweb or something

[–] Sophocles@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or at that point we move to the forest and start dissociating from society

[–] Bo7a@piefed.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Way ahead of ya there.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's stopping the dark web from being blocked?

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

At some point it could get to that, but even Chineae residents find a way out of being blocked. If it gets totally restricted then maybe we go to a peer mesh net and bypass ISPs.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 weeks ago

Signal jammers can directly knock that out, or a hostile government can block meshnets through the legal back door by regulating them out of existence.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Now is the time to set one up. If we wait until the blocks come, it will be too late.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

There are people using meshtastic already. But yeah it needs a push to become mainstream

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How will you order your meshtastic radio if you cannot access the web, and how long will it be before it’s made illegal anyway?

No one will know about the disappearances because the news comes from the cloud companies. Like it never happened.

I swear some of you are still out to brunch, still think that we’re not all seen as disposable prisoners

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Stores, friends, old fashioned mail order catalogs

[–] ArsonButCute@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is probably a bad take but like, good?

Most of the web is trash nowadays anyway. We should all go back to Gopher and Finger, or other similar modern implementations of the same ideas like Gemini, Spartan, and Titan. Those are small enough to easily roll out over mesh networks that can't be easily governed.

Http is dead. Long live the internet.

[–] zwerg@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Gopher runs on top of the internet, so that solves nothing. Finger is... more or less useless in this context.

You would need a whole new physical layer, and maybe replacement for the TCP and IP protocols. The later is probably doable, the former will struggle unless/until there are lots of users with the new hardware.