Unpopular Opinion
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1. NO POLITICS
Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.
2. Be civil.
Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.
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4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...
Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.
5. No trolling.
This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.
6. Defend your opinion
This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.
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Getting the urge to vomit at the sight of any healthy human body part isn't something to be proud of. As someone who's spent years in gay relationships, I find this particular flavor of misogyny especially disgusting.
It might not be misogyny. Maybe they have some personal trauma regarding female anatomy.
There's all kinds of people, some people get the urge to throw up when they see a Brussels sprout.
It's definitely not something I'm proud of lol.
That being said, people have subjective preferences. A vagina looks like a wet, big wound to me. Like a really deep cut. With liquid that looks infected. It makes me want to puke. That's not me consciously saying, "it's disgusting". It's a reaction that comes from a part of my brain that I have no control over.
Me finding vaginas disgusting does not equate to me hating women. Many trans men have vaginas. Do I find them less disgusting cuz they belong to men now? No.
I'm as libertarian as it gets when it comes to nudism and personal liberty. Every person should have as much freedom as they want (both, culturally and legally) when it comes to nudity in my opinion. However, I do have the freedom to look away from something that I don't like seeing. I'm all for body positivity in the sense that noone must be ashamed or whatever for having any type of body.
That being said, you should definitely be ashamed for making an absolute mockery of the issues women face in society. I'm not a woman myself, so I can't truly understand these issues the way a woman can. But, I can guarantee that there's no feminist out there enraged by the fact that a gay dude finds vaginas disgusting.
Well, ima chime in here.
First, I'm not trying to attack you, only give a perspective on things you may not have considered. But, since doing so is because of something you said, it may seem like an attack without giving a declaration of intent
Where things go off track is that you're saying there's no conscious control of it. That's simply not true. It may or may not be worth the long and difficult process of retraining your mind, but disgust responses are learned. Even the most common ones to smells have a significant degree of built up experiential and social layers that can be stripped away until things like feces and decay become tolerable. Scatole and indole, the twp chemicals that make up the unpleasant side of fecal aroma are tolerable. Not nice, but tolerable, and we've evolved to avoid some things by smell or taste. Sight too, but that's going to be more about coloration, and isn't even certain that it is built in afaik.
Now, I'm not saying you should try to overcome your reaction. I'm not saying you're a bad person for having it. I'm just saying that it isn't something people are born with, and can be changed with enough conscious effort.
Your perception of it being akin to a wound is very inaccurate. I've done wound care. Decades of it k everything from little booboos on knees to gaping holes that slowly killed people. I promise you, a vagina, even one freshly used for sex, doesn't resemble an actual wound. The terms you used, the way of looking at it, is something within anyone's ability to shift. And it starts with knowing that one's subjective and biased perception is inaccurate.
It's like heteros that get disgusted by men fucking. It's a preconception that can be changed. Seeing two men fuck is no more disgusting than two women or two men. It's just genital being stimulated by fellow humans. "But poo comes out of there" is what anti-anal folks think of when they think of anal. "But pee comes out of there" for oral.
Those are constructed perceptions. Those perceptions can be changed if one wants to because, poo or pee coming out of things sometimes doesn't mean poo or pee is coming out it now (unless you're into that, I guess). Seeing vaginas as "nasty" is fully within conscious control, no matter what built up the perception originally.