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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I've been on the fence about honey for a while but tbh I've heard enough. I'll just switch to maple spread or jam.

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Don't let PETA form your opinions. Plenty of good honey out there. Look for actual local beekeepers (not people selling 'locally bottled honey' because many of those are just buying mass market honey and rebottling locally). I wish that wasn't a thing but it is.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

My region is pretty granola. You can't throw a rock without hitting a backyard chicken, we got local cows all around, local everything small scale etc etc, I personally know two families who had apiaries (down to one—other's bees died during a winter), but meh, just easier to go without.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago

Awesome. Also worth pointing out, eating honey by choice is kind of weird too if you think about it. It's literally nectar that's been regurgitated by bugs, I don't get why so many would want that in the first place.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

There is evidence that plants have some form of sentience. They react to their environment and stimuli, and communicate with each other. We honestly shouldn’t be eating anything that was previously alive.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Not saying it's the case here, but I've never heard this argument raised in good faith, like by someone who is interested in reducing the amount of suffering caused by humans to non-humans. It's always brought up as some thought-terminating catch-22 device to just keep doing wtf ever you want to do anyway.

I am genuinely curious what you think we should do with this information, though. Like how has it influenced your own actions?

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago

I saw your comments further down but I want to reply here because some people do sometimes make this argument in seriousness:

Like others said, if I could get all my nutritional needs met synthetically and/or photosynthetically (and still be healthy) I would be happy to. But as it stands, going entirely plant-based is the best and most practical way to minimize harm to all life - including plants. To consume animals you need to raise them, and it takes significantly more plants to raise an animal for food than it takes to eat the plants directly.

[–] skibidi@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you are recommending synthesizing food from base chemicals, there isn't another option. All life, excepting that which can photosynthesize, consumes other life for energy and materials.

The best we can do is mitigate suffering and environmental harm - factory farming is abhorrent - but until we have the Star Trek replicator pumping out TV dinners from the ether, we have to eat something.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Damn I thought my sarcasm was obvious.

We are animals and part of the food web, there is nothing innately immoral about eating any other part of the food web to sustain ourselves.

There’s certainly stupid ways to sustain ourselves, such as practices that unsustainably harm the environment like factory farming, or practices that would spur other life forms to harm us, like eating other humans.

But my main point is that “sentience” is a really vague term that can’t be objectively measured.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 9 hours ago

Salad is murder!