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You will never get me with your garbage Fedora distro. I tried all variants over multiple years, multiple releases and I had nothing but issues. I would genuinely rather deal with Canonical's nonsense than Red Hat's. I hate Rad Hat.
That's wild to me it's like the only distro family that ever didn't have constant issues for me. I'm convinced there's some lottery system that assigns us all to a distro at birth and it's our life's mission to find it
Yes, but that distro is Debian for everybody, it just takes some longer, some never find...
You misspelled NixOS.
I've been using it for years and it's the only one I feel I can safely recommend.
Sad that it's owned by IBM now.
Same. I broke Ubuntu many times until I finally found Fedora.
So stable I can't break it apparently.
I broke popOS, Mint, and Fedora. CachyOS is my assigned distro at birth.
Try an atomic Fedora spin... Talk about stable.
Fair lmao.
I can only speak on my KDE Fedora install.
Bazzite is atomic KDE fedora aimed at gaming PCs, and it's been rock solid for me for like 2 years at this point!
This is the first time I've had a Linux install survive this long. Normally fedora/Ubuntu/whatever would have shit the bed by now on either a an os or GPU driver update. I think I've had one moderate issue that took a bit to sort out (but the system was actually usable), but nothing breaking like before.
Finally glad to be free from windows (outside of work anyway)
I've been running Bazzite for a couple of years now, and it's technically built on Fedora. First experience with a Fedora distro, and couldn't be happier. Love it
"Head Rat"
Well, it's relatively stable until it isn't. If you don't have time to fuck around, use mint. Unless you need new packages, then you're fucked (maybe suse TW - but still don't expect everything to work, just decent stability).
Elaborate please. I'm weighing installing Fedora for KDE. What kind of fucking around should I expect?
If you've got a gaming GPU, bazzite is built on kde fedora and takes away 99% of the problems I had with the old school distro. It's an atomic distro so you can't fuck up the base is nearly as easily.
Nah, I've got an ancient machine with too little memory. However, you reminded me that I might want to look into NixOS just to check out how it works, for better or worse.
Fedora is a very early adopter of new technologies, often even earlier than Arch. They were the first to adopt PulseAudio, the first to use Wayland sessions by default, the first to drop Xorg, and will likely be the first to drop lib32 packages. Any issues that may arise from major upgrades or changes, you are most likely to be exposed to them on Fedora.
Got it, thanks.
Eh it's kinda fine most of the time. But if you really don't have time to fix dependencies (via dnf) and constantly leave it for later, many broken things accumulate. It's usually fine (and usually works for at least a few years without problems, even on arch).
Edit: also the other comments.
Thanks. Just to clarify, by 'fixing dependencies' you mean upgrading the packages?
Also that but, occasionally cleaning leftovers and fixing dependancy problems.
Thanks again for the info. However, I can't remember when I ever had to 'fix dependency problems' with APT. Maybe when I ran Debian Testing for a while, or if I added one too many external repos, or if I really really wanted to run two explicitly conflicting packages — but still it's such a foreign thing that I can't recall if it actually ever occurred. Apparently APT's reputation for most solid dependency resolution among package managers is quite well deserved.
The worst I've ever had happen could be fixed with the (prompted) --allow-erasing flag, and I messed around with additional repositories a lot
Gotta say again, as an APT user, I have no idea what "messaged around with additional repositories" means.
typo, messed instead of messaged?
Possibly yes, but I don't think that makes the overall statement distinctly better.
As an APT user I'm sure you've also used PPAs and third party repositories for additional software and drivers? Pretty sure Ubuntu likes to add some by itself.
That's familiar, yes.
Just use the kiddy distro. We don't have time for your questions! 🧐
Also there are probably thirty actual decent KDE distributions. OpenSuSE is one of the very old ones, there are many others.
Just try it for yourself in a VM and you will see.
That is an amazing non-answer. Very impressive in its uselessness. Good job.
Uh-huh. And how long do I need to run the VM before I run into an 'isn't stable' situation? Half a year, a year, more? Am I supposed to use the VM as my main machine during that time?
Just install it, try to install KDE (Gnome is the main desktop of Fedora), see if it works, if you like it, and if you can tolerate the slow ass package manager that is yum.
Should take you about 30 minutes; no need to be rude about it.
You can even try it in your browser if you think setting up a VM is too much time wasted: https://distrosea.com/de/start/fedora-44-kde/
Come on man. I know what KDE looks like. Running a VM for a bit won't help me learn what issues occur with Fedora sometimes.
Fedora Silverblue is by far the worst OS I've ever used. Well, tried to use, because, after a fresh install on a brand new laptop, literally everything crashed with a segfault. I could only login to the desktop and open the terminal. Everything else was broken. I tried with a different USB key, verified the ISO, switched to a different version... Utterly broken.