Atheism

Edit: i am rather tired of this conversation but i so want to finnish this comment. I wrote most of it already, i just got to this part and want to start with it:

Human lives are at stake.

This provides a lot of context and i absolutely understand how you got your point of view. Protestant evangelical has always seemed very extreme and backwards to me. I am really sorry you were forced into this.

Then PLEASE stop enabling it. It's worse than you think.

Most of my christian influence is catholic, (i am still not religious in case this wasnt clear) technically that means the pope is considered the highest authority to set disputes though in practice thats not always the case. The big important is that they say the teaching of jesus got passed with the apostles and the later church who is able to ammend and recontextualize scripture in order to clarify what the words actually mean, hence its not to be taken literally.

Oh? Let's see what the pope has to say about Jesus:

One cannot do so alone and “therefore the Christian Community must always seek the power of the Holy Spirit to confess Jesus, to say that He is God, that He is the Son of God”.

https://insidethevatican.com/popeswords/pope-at-mass-being-christian-means-accepting-jesus-even-to-the-cross/

Protestants literally take scripture literally, i would lie if i am not somewhat biased that i expect such to end in zealot death cults.

Christianity is a death cult, catholicism included.

Does not reflect all of Christianity though which trough out is my sole point

Yes, it literally does. Christ was a human sacrifice. Yahweh is a death god.

I don’t know how many times i need to repeat this but the bible IS a fictional story.

But one with horrible morals, and one people believe is true.

I am not defending the people you describe

Yes you are. You're pretending they're the exception when they're following the bible like most christians.

I am defending people who ARE religious and yet nothing like you describe. Because what you describe is a stereotype.

You keep missing the point: superstition is deadly. Quit being a selfish coward. Quit enabling violence.

The bible i read that was good had a really generic name. “The life and tale of Jesus Christ” i no longer own it. I don’t know who wrote/published it sorry, its over a decade ago.

The interesting odd one is the gospel of Judas. I bring it up specifically because i want to point out that christianity is a philosophy much larger than the church with tons of diverse branches.

None of that magically erases the gospels most people are familiar with.

People who ascribe to Christianity do not need to be aligned with the church, like my mother in law who detests the church but does actually believe heaven is real and prays in private.

As I said before, belief in a happy afterlife devalues our real lives. She, like every christian, is a death cultist.

Quoting scripture does nothing for me, you can interpret those words in so many ways they basically mean nothing.

It's why people believe Jesus is god. The bible says so. Stop ignoring this crucial flaw.

A religious teacher i once knew would say you need to read it in context of the classical era, most of it is outdated and no longer applies, but a core of philosophy remains, even if the historical author was devout they may have verbatim copied a tale without understanding the message themselves.

There is no historical context where slave rape and genocide are moral, especially if god is all-powerful.

Times are different know and so is religion, most people can read, pretending something is absolutely truth makes a lot more sense in context of one academic explaining moral philosophy to a illiterate masses.

No, it's selfish intellectual dishonesty. Truth does not change based on what we want. Pretending something is true is called lying, and it is killing people.

I don’t agree with that, that thinking corrupts so fast with clerical authority in for example, the death cults you speak off, but they are not the whole, and where i live a (loud) minority.

Christianity is a death cult. We're all better off without it. No one needs religion.

I do not tolerate zealots

You evidently do.

its facism with extra steps

Exactly. God is fascist. Christ is god. Christianity wants us all dead.

i could reflect your own words back that your intolerance of religious expression will get people killed.

But you'd be wrong. Examine the evidence.

Because they don’t differentiate decent people from bad people who misuse the same idea and name.

Decent people don't tell deadly lies.

Anyway enough internet arguing for now, have a good day.

Fuck you for enabling abuse. I hope you grow a spine and a brain some day, for the victims' sakes.