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[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think this explanation makes the meme even more confusing 😭

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Confederacy was fighting against the United States. Under tankie logic, that must mean that they're virtuous and attempting to build communism. In reality, they were fighting to preserve chattel slavery.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Okay but Lenin considered the US Civil to be good actually

But what a pedant, what an idiot would anyone be to deny on these grounds the immense, world-historic, progressive and revolutionary significance of the American Civil War of 1863-65!

The representatives of the bourgeoisie understand that for the sake of overthrowing Negro slavery, of overthrowing the rule of the slaveowners, it was worth letting the country go through long years of civil war, through the abysmal ruin, destruction and terror that accompany every war. But now, when we are confronted with the vastly greater task of overthrowing capitalist wage-slavery, of overthrowing the rule of the bourgeoisie—now, the representatives and defenders of the bourgeoisie, and also the reformist socialists who have been frightened by the bourgeoisie and are shunning the revolution, cannot and do not want to understand that civil war is necessary and legitimate.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/aug/20.htm

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes. But these topics about tankies are about reinforcing 'us/them' rationalizations for those who already have their prejudice. The comments here certainly do.

By providing a critical thinking from Lenin, you instead become the tankie, and therefore become incapable of critical thinking, per the meme. Therefore anything Lenin might've said or written can just be dismissed.

And so the tankie can be mocked as a confederate chud nonetheless.

I had to read this a few times because I am high and thought you were being serious 😭

I don't want to people to think I'm knowledgeable or well read or anything I just googled it because I wasn't sure what the meme was trying to say.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And? You seem to be under the delusion that tankies have actually read anything by their heroes.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

I think you're mistaking the lunatic left for the lunatic right. The left usually did their homework at least. Better than the right who refuse to acknowledge what they call "Capitalism" has nothing to do with the foundational principles of the theory.

[–] Jaderick@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you aren’t American: Depicted are American civil war reenactors with the flag of the Confederacy which seceded from the Union of the United States in the 19th century due to built up tensions regarding slavery. The Confederacy were ultimately fighting to keep slavery as a government institution.

The target of the joke are tankies (described briskly above), which we will see on Lemmy, often see any action taken against the US or the EU (the West) as praiseworthy, blatantly disregarding or downplaying equivalent or worse actions from non-western nations.

The subversion of expectation here is that a tankie would see the pro-slavery Confederacy as praiseworthy because they’re fighting the US government, despite the Confederacy’s blatantly immoral cause.

Caveat - I say this with bias as someone explicitly against authoritarian bootlickers, like tankies.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for your efforts, I really do appreciate it. It makes discussion a lot more accessable to people who do not know the details of US history. I am not american myself but unfortunately I have family who live in Kennesaw. I hope that's self explanatory 🥲

I guess the joke doesn't make sense because Lenin thought it was based that the civil war happened because slavery is wack.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You need to tell that to the tankies. We already know it here. They are the ones having problems understanding that.

Sorry tell the tankies what?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tankies: "Any enemy of the US is my ally".

It is a zero sum game for them. They are incapable of thinking that while the US sucks, their enemies can also suck.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago

It is a zero sum game for them.

Who is "them" exactly here? Are you listening to teenagers on TikTok and extrapolating a whole ideology here? Tankies aren't anti-American by definition. Someone is feeding you some pretty twisted propaganda.