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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Why 40%? The value of his labor that's being redirected to the pockets of wealthy CEOs is much higher than that.

[–] 2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 22 hours ago

40% of his pay. They don't pay workers the full value of their labor... that would be ridiculous! Communism, even!

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

There's another 30% that goes to non-cannibalistic regular pedophiles.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Because it said pay and not value?

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago

It varies by industry, but generally you are correct.

[–] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So many layers of tax, each bleeding a worker who would otherwise be able to contribute more to the other workers.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 18 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Taxes are how you contribute to other workers. The notion that taxes are "stolen" is libertarian bullshit preached by the people who want to drive us back into feudalism.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 0 points 11 hours ago

At this point I no longer believe taxes go to anything good. Even the fucking welfare is all a grift with these politicians.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 21 hours ago

Taxes are how you contribute to other workers

...in a system where politicians actually represent their constituents instead of their corporate donors.

preached by the people who want to drive us back into feudalism.

Even feudal lords demanded tribute. That's basically what taxation is in a system where the government is this blatantly corrupt.

[–] driftwood@lemmy.zip -3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

So the orange one paying to prevent wind farm construction is contributing to the workers? 🤔

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago

No matter what, you will always be able to name a government expenditure you personally disagree with. It is ridiculously childish to conclude from that fact that government spending as a whole should not exist.

[–] WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No, but the alternative is not some no-tax, every-person-for-themselves anarchy.

[–] 2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Please do yourself and others a favor and don't conflate libertarians with actual anarchism.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

whilst modern anarchism certainly has a lot of good points to make, anarchism in general also covers some pretty horrendous ways of structuring society…

anarchism is, at its core, is just absense of government and rulers

The word "anarchy" was first defined by Ancient Greek philosophy, which understood it to be a corrupted form of direct democracy, where a majority of people exclusively pursue their own interests

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

that original definition pretty well covers “everyone for themselves anarchy”

you can argue “yes but no serious anarchist”, but the word at its core doesn’t just mean the serious and thought out structures

it is what it is: anarchy can mean chaos, it’s just that when discussing with people who are discussing the implementation of anarchy, it’s widely agreed that chaos is not the goal and thus other systems are put in place

it is frustrating that the modern version of the word has become synonymous with only the kind of anarchism that’s generally agreed is not the way any of this should be implemented… but anarchism still covers those shit takes

That's certainly... true enough from a prescriptivist perspective. However the layman likely doesn't care about all that, and frankly neither do I. Anarcho-capitalism (US libertarianism, read: feudalism) is about as true to "modern anarchism" as Nazism (fascism) is to socialism.

Anyway, I find your "contribution" kinda unhelpful and kinda masturbatory, so... goodbye

[–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It is extremely frustrating that anarchism had been deliberately stigmatized and demonized through all forms of media for decades. Like someone in a movie describing a riot as "total anarchy."

Yeah, the unending propaganda is just awful. And necessary to perpetuate any system that can't stand on its own merits. "Tyranny requires constant effort."