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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We can't really do much else unless we want to start spending 25billion+ per year on a completely independent defense apparatus.

Unlike Canada who has NATO to fall back on, we have no one. We're not and won't ever be part of NATO (due to France).

Though right now is probably the best time to restart 'SEATO' - Japan wants slight separation from US and South Korea is now moving full speed toward it. There has never been a better time for us to start an alliance with a view of becoming less dependent on USA.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago

SEATO as you put it would be fine with me.

I don’t think we are as alone as you say and I’m not sure if the French would be as hostile as you think. They still have interests in forming a strategic partnership in the Pacific and I think they understand what went down with AUKUS.

Whatever, but I’d rather we stood for something and opposed this and accepted the fallout that comes with it.

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We're not and won't ever be part of NATO (due to France).

Is France stopping Australia from moving to the North Atlantic?

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What part of the North Atlantic is Turkey in?

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

What part of the North Atlantic is Turkey in?

Turkiye is north of the tropic of cancer which is required in order to join NATO.

And the only place Australia will fit is in the North Atlantic ocean so you better get to building some giant outboard motors and sail on up if you want to get in.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

A world of fortresses, here we come.

Not that I don't get it