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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There is no left-right. There is only auth-lib.

And no, Libertarians (with a capital L) and ancaps are not on the "lib" end.

[–] agit68@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

Fucking ancaps... Too dumb to understand anarchism. Dumb enough to rally around unfettered capitalism. And extra stupid enough to conflate the two.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There is also socialist-individualist

[–] Forester@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Libertarians are by definition anti authoritarian. The Ancaps are our right wing fringe capital obsessed subgroup. The green party is our left wing fringe communism obsessed subgroup..

Personally as a relatively centrist Geoist Minarchist Libertarian.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's "Lielbertarian" and why does searching for that give me zero results? Is it a typo?

If by "Lielbertarian" you mean the same thing I mean by "Libertarian with a capital L" (and what I mean by that is the U.S. Libertarian Party), then identifying as a "relatively centrist Geoist Minarchist Libertarian" explains why you'd say that "Libertarians are by definition anti authoritarian".

To a left libertarian (with a lower case l), right-wing "libertarians" (in quotes on purpose) simply prefer to be subjugated by despotic CEOs and landlords employing privately-owned mercenary paramilitary/cop organizations (like the Pinkertons) over being subjugated by despotic tyrants wielding state police and military. They're "libertarians" in name only. So long as my boss holds the authority to deny me access to the fulfillment of my basic needs and uses that authority to coerce me into creating surplus profit for them, nobody who thinks that's ok qualifies in my book as "anti authoritarian". (And no, the right to choose your own master by changing employers doesn't change whether it's authoritarian or not.)

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Anyone who needs examples should read some Ayn Rand

Especially Atlas Shrugged

Pushed the belief that if you are big corp boss man it's because you are better than the plebs. Know better than them. Smarter. More sophisticated.

And Anyone being exploited deserves it. It's their fault for being in their position. They just are lazy and stupid anyway.

Her opinions. Not mine.

Her philosophies actually follow what we call in psychology as the dark triad or Machiavellianism.

Aka. Anti social traits.

By anti social I mean going against social order. Not being an introvert.

All three dark triad traits are believed to be conceptually distinct, although empirical evidence shows them to be overlapping. They are associated with a callous–manipulative interpersonal style.[8]

Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy.[9].

Machiavellianism is characterized by manipulativeness, indifference to morality, lack of empathy, and a calculated focus on self-interest.[10][11]

Psychopathy is characterized by continuous antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callous and unemotional traits (CU),[12] and remorselessness.[13]>

[–] Forester@pawb.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your comment has the same vain as : anyone who wants to see examples of communism should look up stalin. Please don't paint us all as An caps

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

We are talking about libertarian views.

And no, to the Stalin remark.

Imo communism in its Marxism form has ever existed so there is no historical example.

Btw. Libertarians praise Atlas Shrugged. It's like their political manifesto. It's been praised by many prominent libertarians.

[–] Forester@pawb.social -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes it's a typo. I have fat thumbs, personally I find your assessment is not accurate for the right wing side. Yes we do have very annoying ancaps but some of them swing a lot more hardcore anarchists than capitalists they just avoid the spotlight and live in the woods alone.

Most Libertarians are closer to Ron Swanson than Ron Paul.