Unpopular Opinion
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1. NO POLITICS
Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.
2. Be civil.
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4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...
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5. No trolling.
This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.
6. Defend your opinion
This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.
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I'm skeptical of any claims about the total number of atoms in the universe. We don't know how far it goes. When the Webb telescope was first deployed, some astronomers expected to see the limits of how far we can see because the time lag for the distance would have approached the big bang. Instead they just saw more galaxies, albeit younger ones.
And even if we had seen into when the universe was opaque, that wouldn't imply anything about that being its limit.
Not to mention our current best models depend on these vague ideas of dark matter and dark energy because otherwise observations of the universe don't fit what our current best models think it should behave like.
I don't think we have the knowledge to really say all that much about whether the universe is infinite or how much of anything is in it. Or if it's alone and what its relationship is with other universes, if any.
Sure, all of this should be taken with "current state of science". But if we start saying "we don't know anything, we may be wrong", then we just cannot discuss about anything.
Estimation of size of universe vary depending on the models. I've read it's ~10^80 atomes. Let's makes it 10 times bigger. It would gives 10^81, what a big deal. One billion time bigger, 10^89. You see what I mean ?
But as I know there are currently no scientific model that suppose an infinite universe.
Sometimes, "we don't know anything" is the most honest discussion that can be held.