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Israel frees colonist who stripped a Palestinian man naked, zip-tied his penis and paraded him around in front of his family, (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 days ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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Link to article: https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-settler-accused-of-attack-to-be-freed-from-house-arrest-barred-from-west-bank/amp/

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[–] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, but then we agree. even though we both would hope to not kill civilians or hate our oppressors, we acknowledge that the killing of civilians on October 7th and the heightened visibility of the genocide as an overreaction from Israel has helped their cause.

The only thing I am still waiting for is you naming me Palestinian terror attacks that you consider not being resistance, or in other words, motivated by antisemitism.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 12 hours ago

we acknowledge that the killing of civilians on October 7th and the heightened visibility of the genocide as an overreaction from Israel has helped their cause.

Yes to the latter half, no to the former. Frankly Israel is committing genocide out of principle (and to keep Netanyahu out of jail), not because they're angry at the civilian deaths specifically. Even a "clean" October 7th would've drawn massive outrage from Israel and led to essentially what we've seen happen, because to Israelis the very fact of Palestinian resistance is offensive. Besides, in any case a significant fraction of Israeli civilian casualties is likely self-inflicted, so they'd have just pinned those on Hamas (as they did in real-life) and done their genocide anyway. "Commit war crimes if soldiers are taken prisoner" is literally Israeli doctrine, and arguably the current genocide is in large part the application of rhat doctrine on large scale, civilians or no civilians. What Israel absolutely doesn't have is a "no first war crime" doctrine.

On the other hand, what a "clean" October 7th would've done is deny Israel international sympathy and create a real contrast between the genocidal IDF and their enemies, rather than muddying the waters by having both sides commit abhorrent war crimes (one orders of magnitude more than the other, obviously). It's actually a massive missed opportunity in the PR war.

The only thing I am still waiting for is you naming me Palestinian terror attacks that you consider not being resistance, or in other words, motivated by antisemitism.

I did so already, but sure.