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Deliberately provocative title here, and I'm not going to go on record making a prediction, but I just have a bad feeling about it. The persistent bugbear on the Democratic side is voter turnout. Hong had momentum and energy, with the potential to drive strong turnout of the progressive and Democratic base. By the AP numbers I saw, she had majority support through much of the state, while Crowley won with a majority of Milwaukee voters. Which is to be expected, as that's where the biggest chunk of our population lives. But also, Milwaukee has historically had soft Democratic voter turnout.

Voters there chose him in the primary; will they show up for the general election?

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

By the AP numbers I saw, she had majority support through much of the state, while Crowley won with a majority of Milwaukee voters. Which is to be expected, as that’s where the biggest chunk of our population lives. But also, Milwaukee has historically had soft Democratic voter turnout.

Maybe because Milwaukee hates cops...

2017:

MILWAUKEE — Last night, the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU of Wisconsin, and the law firm of Covington & Burling filed an amended complaint in their class-action lawsuit against the city of Milwaukee over its police department’s vast stop-and-frisk program. The revised complaint adds three named plaintiffs to the lawsuit, one of whom is Representative David Crowley, a state legislator representing Wisconsin’s 17th Assembly District. Like the other named plaintiffs and tens of thousands of other Milwaukeeans of color, Rep. Crowley has been subject to an unconstitutional stop and frisk by the Milwaukee police without reasonable suspicion of criminal activity and based on racial profiling.

One evening before he was elected to the Wisconsin State Assembly, Rep. Crowley was walking with his godbrother in Milwaukee. “We heard gunshots in the distance, so we walked in the other direction to avoid trouble. A patrol car stopped in front of us, and two officers jumped out with guns drawn and pointed right at us. I was terrified,” said Rep. Crowley.

He and his godbrother put up their hands. The police frisked them, taking their wallets from their pants pockets and pulling their IDs from the wallets. One officer asked if the two men had thrown a gun into the field where they had been walking.

“The police treated us like suspects, yet we had done nothing wrong. The officers drew their guns on us, searched us without our consent, and never explained why,” said Rep. Crowley. “As young Black men, we were presumed guilty. The police decided that the Constitution doesn’t apply to us.”

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/state-legislator-joins-aclu-lawsuit-against-stop-and-frisk-program-milwaukee-police

Like, I didn't know who this guy was yesterday, but considering that happened in Milwaukee, and after that he became a vice chair of the Milwaukee ACLU...

I feel like people from Milwaukee were familiar with him.

I've seen a lot of people claim he's a moderate/neoliberal, but I haven't seen anyone explain what parts of his policy fit that.

Be very cautious of people claiming we shouldn't vote D. They should at least be able to give some sort of explanation, not just labels used as insults.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just had to follow up: You were right. Thank god! (Milwaukee County showed up.)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We're legitimately on the way to some FDR shit...

The next battle tho is going to be House/Senate leadership.

Without a corrupt DNC, there's no reason to settle for Jefferies/Schumer. We need progressive leadership, because that's what Dem voters want.

The problem with a non-biased DNC tho, is they won't put their finger on the scale at all. People need to mobilize and call their Dem representatives/senators and telling them we need effective leadership, and the guys who had it the last two years weren't effective.

It shouldn't take much of a fight, but we can't half ass it. We can't half ass anything

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

I'm writing my representatives this morning.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's also the Milwaukee county executive, so of course they know him. But I hadn't heard of him either, and that's really the issue. I don't care about people claiming that we shouldn't vote D, they're about as relevant as a fart in a hurricane, since they change the minds of exactly nobody. If anything, they might do some good by increasing people's awareness of politics. (It's an empirical fact that repeatedly raising an issue just hardens hardens people's attitudes and entrenches, rather than changing, their opinions.)

A lot more people are disconnected from politics, or marginally aware, at best. The question that I have is whether enough Milwaukeeans will come out for the general election to offset the lack of marginal voters from the rest of the state, whose attention is going to fade due to the lack of energy, enthusiasm, and sheer novelty of a candidate like Hong, combined with unfamiliarity with Crowley. And since Milwaukee has a track record of lower turnout, I worry.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, Wisconsin had the second highest turnout of any state in the last election...

I don't think turnout will be an issue, and without trump personally on the ballot, Republican turnout is definitely going to drop.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

His endorsee is on the ballot, though. And the wildcard is that this will be the first election under the new Legislative districts, but still, more Republican-held seats are up for election than Democratic seats, and they've put up a couple of new constitutional amendments that throw red meat to the base to juice turnout. I hope to god you're right, but I can't shake the bad feeling about it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All state parties have been operating at "campaign levels" since February 2025...

Normally that wouldmt even have started yet, they'd just now be ramping up and it would last maybe two months every two years...

Dems are going to out perform everywhere, that's why there's such a big push to get the DNC chair to resign before midterms, after it there's not going to be any denying that this works better than neoliberalism.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 1 points 3 months ago

If this is "campaign levels," that's depressing as hell.