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[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is that our problem as customers, though? Why are we expected to subsidize worker wages instead of employers actually paying the workers that are critical to their success? Why do we let employers get away with the insultingly paltry wage of $2.15/hour?

Don't get me wrong, if you use a service where workers are reliant on tips, you should tip, but I'd rather just avoid the hassle most of the time. I'd eat out a fair bit more often if not for the not-mandatory-but-totally-mandatory 15-20% extra to subsidize the owner's greed.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AFAIK baristas start at the normal minimum wage, but servers get that crazy low tipped minimum wage.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you're right, but as far as I'm concerned, it's irrelevant. It is not my responsibility as a customer to make sure someone's employees get paid adequately. That's the responsibility of their employer. If they can't afford to run their business while paying their workers appropriately, then I'm really sorry your goals didn't work out, but you're running a failed business and just haven't admitted it yet.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We all do what we can. When I'm doing carry out, No way am i going to tip for a non tipped position.

If I'm eating out in a society where servers depend on tips by law basically, i didn't have to eat out, so I'm going to pay what's expected of me.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

If I'm eating out in a society where servers depend on tips by law basically, i didn't have to eat out, so I'm going to pay what's expected of me.

Sure, I do the same thing. I just opt to do that significantly less often than I might otherwise. At least for my service, it has cost restaurants far more than it has saved them on labor.