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[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

This is true but individual action is still necessary. Just because it's important that we hold corporations and the wealthy accountable and curb industrialized pollution doesn't mean that the average person isn't needing to make significant changes. We can't both maintain a consumer mindset and abdicate individual responsibility while also demanding sweeping societal changes.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

We can consume the wealthy and abdicate them of the responsibility of carrying on and also demand change. Especially if we consume them while they're still alive, as a mob, and do it with dull forks.

The survivors will be far more willing to listen.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

We can't both maintain a consumer mindset and abdicate individual responsibility while also demanding sweeping societal changes.

And you think it's the "demanding sweeping societal changes" that has to go?

Maybe we need to start with the individualism and "consumer mindset"?

[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And you think it’s the “demanding sweeping societal changes” that has to go?

Not even slightly. I'm just trying to point out that neither of them "have to go;" shouting down someone advocating for either form of action helps no one.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

And this stance betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the relative scale of damage each causes.