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Pope's official prayer app commits cardinal sin, leaks 700K users' info (www.theregister.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/68752761 which was cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/64103917

I thought about saying "you know it's a grift when they collect personal information and leak it." According to their Bible, you don't need an app to pray. They say church (or a covenant, I forget, it's been 30+ years since I read the KJV) is when any two people come together to talk about Jesus (sorry!). So, where does an app fit in? And why does that app need your personally identifiable information (referred to as PII in industry). Wouldn't an all-knowing God already have it?

But you don't have to know it's a grift... I feel like this is proof the Vatican (or whoever made this app on their behalf, and thus speak on their behalf... and the Pope allegedly speaks on God's behalf) themselves know it's a grift. Because why would they need your PII?

I know, fools and their money are soon parted... just saw this on /all and figured the Fediverse's top Atheism comm should have it.

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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The gears extending infinitely would be a Reductio Ad Absurdum, so one gear must be the start of it all.

???

Definitely not within your lifespan, and definitely not fast enough if the sun actually disappeared.

I am making a claim by saying "X isnt real"

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The gears extending infinitely would be a Reductio Ad Absurdum, so one gear must be the start of it all

So god also requires a cause. The only alternative is special pleading.

Definitely not within your lifespan, and definitely not fast enough if the sun actually disappeared.

Why did god choose to make a sun that gives us cancer?

I am making a claim by saying "X isnt real"

Atheists are "making the claim" that we don't believe your claim, because there is no argument, evidence, or reason supporting your claim. You not only assume there is a god, you then assume to understand why he created suffering, even though you have not been able to explain it. He cannot be both powerful and loving, if he existed at all.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, he doesn't. He is of a different nature.

Why do you think its ok to eat chicken but not human flesh? Because we of a different nature than chickens.

Thus, God is also of a different nature than us.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, he doesn't. He is of a different nature.

Special pleading.

Why do you think its ok to eat chicken but not human flesh? Because we of a different nature than chickens.

Because a society that tolerates needless cannibalism is unsustainable. And because prions. But also, I don't think it's okay to eat chicken.

Thus, God is also of a different nature than us.

Special pleading. Aren't we each of a "different nature", as individuals? Define "nature".

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Its not special pleading if its ACTUALLY special.

We are not of a different nature. For man has the nature of man, and a pig the nature of a pig.

2. the basic or inherent features, character, or qualities of something

Example: helping them to realize the nature of their problems

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

Its not special pleading if its ACTUALLY special.

But it's not actually special, evidently. Evidently, it does not exist, and special pleading is your excuse for believing it.

We are not of a different nature. For man has the nature of man, and a pig the nature of a pig.

I have the nature of me, you have the nature of you. It's arbitrary, meaningless.

  1. the basic or inherent features, character, or qualities of something

Example: helping them to realize the nature of their problems

You haven't answered anything. I can just say the nature of the universe is the universe. The nature of god is that he does not exist.

Try getting more specific.