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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/68752761 which was cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/64103917

I thought about saying "you know it's a grift when they collect personal information and leak it." According to their Bible, you don't need an app to pray. They say church (or a covenant, I forget, it's been 30+ years since I read the KJV) is when any two people come together to talk about Jesus (sorry!). So, where does an app fit in? And why does that app need your personally identifiable information (referred to as PII in industry). Wouldn't an all-knowing God already have it?

But you don't have to know it's a grift... I feel like this is proof the Vatican (or whoever made this app on their behalf, and thus speak on their behalf... and the Pope allegedly speaks on God's behalf) themselves know it's a grift. Because why would they need your PII?

I know, fools and their money are soon parted... just saw this on /all and figured the Fediverse's top Atheism comm should have it.

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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because then, you'd be trying to claim that what has need of all has need of nothing, a logical contradiction.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what has need of all has need of nothing

What need are you talking about?

You still haven't answered how god solves this problem yet we can't apply the same logic to existence itself. You are still using special pleading to assume a conclusion that is not supported by any evidence.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I described the need.

Please read the comments I made above.

And it is because that God is of a different nature than of his creation.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

I described the need. Please read the comments I made above.

Are you talking about the gears analogy? Again, it's a false equivalence. Wouldn't god just be another gear, also in need of something to start it turning?

And it is because that God is of a different nature than of his creation.

Ah. Special pleading. You see that's exactly what it is, don't you?

The universe doesn't need a god, based on everything we know so far. You need a god because you are scared and selfish. You would rather outsource your thinking and morality no matter how many people it kills.

Fuck you for choosing death.