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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Really quick, list what you think civilized, nonmilitary, individual folks with families should do against a 50 year systemic plan, funded with trillions and led by literal psychopaths fixed on destabilizing democracy to rebuild a fascist autocracy in their own image? Every day is a real internal struggle of what to do next. Many of us have spent decades opposing in every way typical folks can, bleeding, arrest, life threatening opposition face to face with swat teams as unarmed, untrained every day people.

Your response is not helpful. It trivializes one of the largest issues in the history of civilation with no clear solution ahead.

The point of my response is that WE are not opposed, so don't try to make the good folks into opponents. Grow up, see the bigger picture and support. Offer solutions and plan on what your personal line will be when this all finds it's way to you.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Whatever you though the Germans should have done to the Nazis pre-WWII. Whatever you think the Russians should do to Putin. Whatever you think Israelis should do with Netanyahu.

My grandpa fought in WWII. He never asked the Germans if they supported Hitler, though. He just dropped rocket artillery on them from a few km away.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 4 weeks ago

Really quick

A national peaceful shutdown.

Unfortunately you’ve already prefaced the standard excuse, one which wouldn’t exist had enough people gone out to vote when needed. Any argument against that is disproven by the results Republican voters get in all elections around the country and what Mamdani did in its biggest city.

They’re not trivialising any response at all…the fact is, it’s American citizens that have to do something about it, one way or the other. The easiest solution is to vote. The next easiest now is peaceful shutdown.

There’s two solutions. They’ve dropped the ball on one, repeatedly. Now it’s time for the other. It’s not our job to help either; they elected him democratically, we can’t and they told us to keep our nose out of it before 2016.

Sooner or later the good folks need to unite, step up and do something. Yes, it’ll involve hardship, for many. Yes, it’s easy for us to say but we’d do something about this if and when it comes to us. This is why voting is important. But we are under no obligation to separate good Americans from bad ones in this…it’s a collective responsibility as far as outsiders are concerned.

We have grown up…it’s the US that needs to grow up and their people take their national duty seriously. As a collective.

It’s already finding our way to us, thanks to the US. They’re already inundating us with their incessant political garbage, brought to us by their conservative PACs. I note Americans are quick to call that our problem as well, on top of asking for asylum.

All this is why we are sick to death of them and their shit.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol the "WhY aReN't ThEy dOinG aNyThInG tO StOp It" people never, ever have an answer to a reasoned response like this.

They also never notice the identical moves being made in their own governments. Like the afd in Germany of all places.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago

No, those people never have an answer to when it's them that should be doing something.

Go to any thread about Ukraine, it's why aren't Russians doing anything to stop it. Same with Israel, same with Mexico (why are they leaving instead of fixing their country?), etc.

In this particular case the US is about to become the center of the new bad guys of WW3, and Americans are, in fact, not doing enough to stop it.