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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Write the duress PIN on a piece of paper in your wallet. Someone searching your phone is probably also searching your wallet and may try the PIN.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Genius. Flips the script. In the process of conducting an illegal search, you deleted my phone causing considerable financial and emotional damage. Lawsuit time.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 4 points 14 hours ago

Legally this might be the same as intentionally deleting evidence. Rigging up evidence to be destroyed could be considered as intent of evidence misconduct, and some judges might not consider there to be a semantic difference given the intended end result to be the same (IANAL but the US judges are crazy)

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It probably won't work, at least (US)domestically. The requirement for obtaining a warrant before searching a phone is part of training because there is a clear Supreme Court ruling to that effect.

That being said, what the law says and what some random asshole does during a stop are not always the same thing.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

Their way around it is they say that the border crossing technically isn't 100% normal US territory and therefore some constitutional rights are suspended under the concept of "sovereign self-protection". You could then say any law in the US could be used to justify this concept, in fact it was used to forcibly intern thousands of Japanese and Japanese-Americans during ww2.

He was targeted for purely political reasons, the cop-city environmental protest in Atlanta GA, and I'm wondering why the border officials were even aware of them. Is there some sort of "we don't like what you think" list run by the gov?

His device was threatened with seizure even though he posed no threat, no visible threat or spoken one, no suspicion of a crime, and they had no idea what the contents were. His 5th Amendment rights were violated by the threat to seize it. They want to establish a precedent, that the very existence of a possibility of criminal contents, regardless of any reason to suspect any, is sufficient for search and seizure. Based on this a little kid deleting the contents of their ipad would be a crime.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

In addition, how can you show intent to destroy evidence when you have no expectation of being detained or charged on any specific occasion, and have no idea what evidence they might be seeking?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Is there some sort of “we don’t like what you think” list run by the gov?

i've been on it, yes.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Is there some sort of “we don’t like what you think” list run by the gov?

You think all these data centers are just for making bad code and creepy videos?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

They're massive AI-powered false-positive factories.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

This was a point of entry. No search warrant required.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago

They will 100% tell you they don't need a warrant if it's during any kind of traffic stop or border crossing.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Feds following the law? Did you miss the last decade?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That being said, what the law says and what some random asshole does during a stop are not always the same thing.