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I'm conflicted.
On one hand, I think people should leave their positions if they're being used for evil.
On the other hand, how do we adequately resist fascism without people on the inside at the highest levels willing to side against the fascists when the opportunity presents itself?
I'm not absolving this guy for anything he may have contributed to the fascist agenda, but having people on the inside to resist it is necessary. Few of those people will ever be squeaky clean.
On the other other hand, hopefully when people like that leave an organization (military or a company in general) they take a knowledge base and experience with them, making things dumber and less efficient.
But I agree, I'd rather have a mole on the inside doing what good they can to block the march to evil.
They do!
The knowledge base that is leaving are the people that understand that starting random wars is stupid.
I am hoping the people who leave, plan a war against Dogey America. Odds are that we will need to kill the Confederacy again.
If this person was doing that, then I would reconsider my opinion but it looks (from the post) that he was not resisting and just hoping to be around to clean some of the mess later...
The problem here is that his job is not making a bug free video game... his job is ultimately to kill people so I find it hard to accept it is OK for him to do that but just regret it a little and that means he is a good person
So, you prefer the timeline where all honest and good high ranking military either immediately resign in protest, or "resist" which will mean immediate termination and possible charges. Vs the one where they maintain position and stay ready to resit when it might matter?
Absolutely!... if the USA had staged a general strike, the child rapist regime would have ended in 3 months
If the "honest and good" military ranking had put a stop to this, literally THOUSANDS of lives would not have been wasted in vain.
These "honest and good" are not ready to resist... they are simply doing evil things while knowing they are evil things in hopes of what? are they going to rebuild Iran? are they going to the Caribbean to pay reparations for playing target practice with whatever boat they destroyed?
People that think the organization revolves around them are also narcissists. No. When they leave, the inevitable march will continue. The knowledge will be filled- if not now- later, by more fascists.
That’s effectively what this argument leads to. More fascists in the government.
if you have not noticed, an inevitable feature of these fascists is that they are incredibly mediocre… I rather see the military crumble under their ineptitude than help them along the way pretending to be "the good guy"
Right. So you genuinely think it will crumble if only those with upstanding morals leave.
Naive. Try reading a book, something outside your echo chamber pehaps
not just leave, oppose
Explain to me how do you oppose fascism by doing everything they want you to do but secretely not like it?
Again. You have zero idea what he (or anyone else) is or isn’t doing without your knowledge.
I’m finished discussing this with someone so thick headed.
I mean, he just told us what he was doing but feel free to push your head in the sand deeper
Completely understandable
We are not just talking about "evil" here as in "following orders means this washing machine will not be as reliable as I could make it". In this case we are talking about extreme cases as in "following orders means humans will be slaughtered for no reason at all"
Is that what is happening? because what I read was that this person disagreed but followed orders anyway, and just the slightest criticism got him canned... how was he resisting fascism in any way?
Again, I agree but where is the evidence of ANY resistance?
Well, the act of criticism is grounds for immediate dismissal.
So what specific resistance are you looking for? That would not simply be the same as walking away, only with added steps and possible retaliation?
They should have literally voiced their concern and refused to follow illegal commands
You cannot pretend to be a good person when you do evil things, knowing they are evil, simply because you want to save your own status...