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[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Because Soviets fought instead of surrendering.

Did they have good leadership? I hear stories about how soldiers had to fight without enough guns or ammo, or they'd be shot by their commanders.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

They did not have Christmas parties with the Nazis unlike the Allies. Wonder why.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

Wasn't that WW1

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

They did not have Christmas parties with the Nazis unlike the Allies. Wonder why.

Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. Also the Soviets literally invaded Poland opposite of Germany in '39.

Back to my question about actual battlefield behavior, though: did the Soviet commanders shoot their own troops and send them into fights without enough guns and ammo?

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

did the Soviet commanders shoot their own troops

Yes, as did every other country during the war. Some more than others, but there wasn't a single country in WWII where officers did not shoot their own soldiers for insubordination.

and send them into fights without enough guns and ammo?

No, this is common propaganda pushed by COD and Enemy at the Gates, based on a single officer's report from the Battle of Stalingrad that they did not have enough guns to equip his troops. Conveniently, the second half of the officers report is usually left out, where he states that he is diverting his troop ship to a supply depot to rearm before heading into combat.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I see you know nothing about history except spouting propaganda so no need to discuss further. You prefer surrender to the Nazis and joining them like Europe did of course.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You prefer surrender to the Nazis and joining them like Europe did of course.

My family left behind died in the resistance. Surrender isn't an option against fascism, imo.

Europe as a whole resisted the spread of Nazis in WW2, and didn't join them like you're implying. Many died fighting the Axis powers that took over part of Europe. The Axis powers that were also in Europe were defeated.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Europe as a whole resisted the spread of Nazis in WW2, and didn't join them like you're implying. Many died fighting the Axis powers that took over part of Europe

Then why are you on here criticizing the USSR for doing exactly that?