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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Morally wrong? No.

Is it not? I'm not religious, but I still find it morally wrong to have sex with something that didn't consent to it.

Whether the animal is alive or dead, it isn't able to consent. And since the animal cannot consent, it is therefore rape, making it morally wrong.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

A dildo also isn't able to consent. A carrot isn't able to consent and is more alive than the roadkill (since it can still reproduce). Ability to consent is something we require from conscious beings, but we generally don't require it from objects, and corpses blur the line.

I definitely get the "ick" feeling from necrophilia, so my knee-jerk reaction is to consider it immoral, but it isn't actually that easy to come up with a consistent justification for that condemnation.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

A dildo also isn't able to consent. A carrot isn't able to consent and is more alive than the roadkill (since it can still reproduce).

A dildo was never alive, and a carrot is not a sentient creature.

Ability to consent is something we require from conscious beings, but we generally don't require it from objects, and corpses blur the line.

Why does a corpse blur the line? Or is this DnD logic and a corpse is just an object? A corpse should be treated like the person it was, so it still needs consent otherwise you're still raping it.

but it isn't actually that easy to come up with a consistent justification for that condemnation.

It absolutely is: a sentient (not even sapient, but sentient) being's bodily autonomy is inviolable without their consent.

Extending your logic to make my point, if a corpse is blurring the line, what about brain dead coma patients, especially ones that are infertile? Are they ok to rape? They're alive and can't reproduce, so what's the difference, right?

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

since it can still reproduce

UT OH 🫪

[–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I cannot fucking believe I'm going to participate here...

... but when you're talking to someone about organ donation, you'd typically say something like "You can't take them with you. That isn't you anymore. You're dead. It's just meat now."

... and that's as much as I'm going to say because gross

[–] abysmalpoptart@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

But this is actually why we decide whether or not we participate in postmortem organ donation while we're alive - we make the conscious decision ahead of time. Which is still then consistent with the consent argument

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

So then if I consent to someone fucking my corpse after I'm gone, it becomes morally OK for them to do it.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

If someone writes in their will that their dick shall be made into a dildo so that their partner can keep having sex with them, they can do that. I find it gross, but not immoral.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

Pretty sure you can't. I'd bet that most countries have specific laws against owing human body parts.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago

Well yea I guess if I go tell shawty she can ride my hog after I get the death erection and she does it I can't really be mad at her can I

[–] abysmalpoptart@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I don't even know how to approach that but you do you I suppose

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

With regard to the corpse, maybe.

There's possibly a virtue ethics argument against the person doing it? Like, it's a little weird that they want to, right?

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Weird from a cultural perspective where any sort of non-medical interference with a corpse is frowned upon, so we're trained from a very young age to find any of that stuff icky/morbid. Other cultures may not have that same aversion.

Kinda in the same vein as we in North America have a very conservative opinion on being naked in public where other cultures couldn't care less.

I'm already a moral relativist.

What I'm asking is if a person who wants to and does have sex with corpses, knowing that this is socially profane and must be kept secret, is this a trustable person?

Also, respect for the dead often involves rituals that are non-medical. I think disease obviously played a part in how these rituals were formed, but I don't think that disease is the primary reason people care.

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

but I still find it morally wrong to have sex with something that didn’t consent to it.

That makes it immoral in your framework. But you can simply construct one that doesn't require consent, then it wouldn't be wrong.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, but I can also construct a moral framework in which it's ok for me to murder anyone I don't like because my not-mental-illness-sky-daddy said so.

Moral relativism is bullshit and can be used to justify anything.

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago

Exactly, you can construct what ever moral framework you want to, sky daddy or not.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What if it's a plant instead? It once was alive, and is incapable of consent. Is it morally wrong to make a dildo out of wood? What about bone?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

A plant is not an animal, and is also not a sentient creature. A bone is a part of an animal harvested and used as a tool, not the animal itself.

It's a simple line to draw.